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"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity".
(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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User Name: ADNAN
Full Name: SYED ADNAN AHMED
User since: 30/Apr/2007
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KARACHI MAY PAKISTANIO K QATLY AAM K PICHY KON HAY ?
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THE KILLERS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OF KARACHI
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Details of terrorist attacks on the MQM
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ZULM BHI HUM PAY ZALIM BHI HUM WA RAY DOST TAYRI SOCH
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ISOLATION
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Dear Brother Noman , Anwaar , Mughal , Zubair , Kashif ,

Kindly read below and advise who was wrong , who was going to make JINHA POUR ? please halat o waqiat ko samajny ki koshish karo khod ko hamari jaga rakh k socho k agr yee sub tum log k sat hota tu tum log kiya karty mny yee nahi khyta k is ka jawab nahi diya gaya zati tor pay larko nay AASLAH uthya is zulm k khilaf but is may MQM YA BHAI ka koe hat nahi tha tum MQM or BHAI k taraf say diye gay wo biyanat par sakty ho jahan har zulm k bad hum logo ko pur aaman rhyny ki talqin ki gae.

is thyriq may mry dostu ka or cousin ka khon shamil hay wo haq parasti k jdhojhd may SHAHID howay hyn or jub hum nay badla layny ki bat ki thi tu MQM k zimydaro nay sirf yahi kaha tha k nahi QANON hat may mat loo ALLAH pay chor do wo bara insaf karny wala hay jin larko nay zati tor pay badly lye wo bhi bhot majbor thy kahin apny piyaro ki mohabat may or kahain apni jano ki hiazat k lye or us surat may bhi sirf un logo ko nishana banaya gaya jin ho nay un pay zulm kiya tha ksi bay gunha Panjabi , Pakthon , Sindhi , Balochi bhai ko kabhi koe taqlif nahi di gae yar us waqat MQM k larko ko apni jan k laly pary hoty thy wo kahan ksi Panjabi ya phatan ko bharam bazi k chakar may marty tum log nay haqiqat nahi daykhi hay is lye is tara bolty ho hum nay time guzara hay aj bary zor say Noman Bhai farmaty hayn k MQM BHATA KHOR hyn CHOR hyn mj say poucho MQM k larko nay 50 paysy ki roti pay pory pory din guzara kiya hay mri ALLAH say duwa hay ALLAH wo waqat ksi dushman ko bhi na dikhay jo waqat Karachi walo , MQM walo nay daykha hay

Best Regards
Adnan
 
                                              
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 Reply:   Hudood bill is totally unislam
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (6/May/2007)
i have hunderds of proof in this manner, so either admit it or leave it like that, but if you try to prove it islamic then i will consider you are not accepting where u are wrong.
just on the basis of this argument,tht if we are ready to give second chance t BB or nawaz then why we can give altf another chance, although there is hell of difference in BB, nawaz and Altaf, but ok , for the time being i am not talking about past.
i will see what MQM will do in future.
but for me MQM will be a secular party, and there is no doubt in it.
secular party doesnt mean the individual belives.
i am ending our disussion here.
we will again discuss on some new matter when ever it arises.
for example come to the thread, MQM stopped the transmission of GEO etc, discuss this there now.
regards
Allah hafiz
 
 Reply:   hussnain//shy
Replied by(moonraza) Replied on (6/May/2007)
pls come on right path
salam to allllllllll,
 
main is baray kuch ziada nahi but thora tu zror boloon ga .... wo yeah kay yeab sab nazroon ka dhoka hai ...yeah altaf bhai tu koi bhi hai karachi kay bachay kaharab kar raha hai ..... aur kuch nahi ....mera khayal hai app adnan shahab meri baat smjha gaye hoon gay .... agr app ka bhai kuch karna chahta hai tu whan bethay phone par kew bolta hai us ko pakistan ana chahiyaa .... takay us ko pata chalay yahan kiya hoo raha hai ....saboot is taran kay tu kahin say bhi mil saktay hainnnnnnnnnn.... lekin adnan app mujhey kuch sharif admi lagtay hain ... abhi bhi wqt hai app smbhal jaoo.... sedhay rastay par a gaooo..... baki app ki marzi hai ... mera haq tha app ko smjhana .......
 
meria batoon ka bura na manaye ga ... jo such hai wo hi keh raha hoon ......
 
thanks & regards,
Hussnain

 
 Reply:   i will get back to you in a da
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (6/May/2007)
sorry, brother, i am busy now adays.
Asslam o Alaikum
i will try to get back to u with my reply in a day or two.
ad why should remove you from the group.
group is for every one.
if you want to clear others concern then keep doing your work.

if you want to leave the grup, un subscribe yourself, i wont remove any person neither will welcome this thing.
i want you to stay.
so u will be able to read what nd why people think anti MQM, but u should agree with me on one thing people are anti-mqm but not qnti-muhajir or anti-karachi.
regrds
Allah hafiz
 
 Reply:   ISOLATION//sh
Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (5/May/2007)
Nomi i waiting for your reply
nomi tum nay mri ksi bat ka jawab nahi diya or na ab tak mj ko group say remove kiya hay kiya tumhary pass mri batu ka jawab nahi hay ? ek bat or tumhara group say mj ko remove na karna is bat ka ishara hay k MQM k khilaf jo ghalat fhymiya hyn un ko dor karny ka kam jari rakhon is group pay .
 
please revert back with your comments urgently .
 
Adnan
 
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
 
G.A.ALTAF BHAI
 
HAQ AANY KO HAY OR BATIL MITNY KO

 
 Reply:   ISOLATION//sh
Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (3/May/2007)
ALVIDAH
DEAR NOMI ,
 
ASALAM-E-ALYQOOM,

you are really doing a good job and your party should be proud of you.
 
i am nothing yar kiya may or kiya mri haqiqat dost is thyriq may mj say bhi bary bary log shamil hyn mayra tu kuch shomar hi nahi or wasy bhi mny koe asa bara kam nahi kiya k MQM mj pay proud kary dubai may job hony ki waja say may is thyriq ki zada khidmat nahi kar saka jis ka afsos mjay hamysha rhyga or moni yee party mri ya tumhari nahi hay yee sub ki hay pory pakistan ki

you gave every answer in a very good manner.
 
tarif ka shokria laykin agr tum mj say poucho tu may abhi bhi mutmain nahi hon apny jawabo say mj yahi lagta hay k may nay mukamal jawab nahi diya well mry lye yahi qafi hay k tum mutmain hogay ho

when i said MQM is not islam loving party, i never meant of individuals, i always meant the leaders.
 
hum kis ko fillow karhy hyn BHAI ko na or tumhary khiyal may BHAI ka nazarya ISLAM k bary may wrong hay tu is ka sida sida sa matlub yahi howa na k hum logo ka nazarya bhi ISLAM k bary may ghalat hay asa kuch nahi nomi blive me yar asa kuch nahi hay jsa tum samajty ho hum logo ko MQM ki tarbiyashti nishist k doran namaz ki or har bory kam say bachny ki talqin ki jati hay han yee zaror hay k zabardasti nahi ki jati k app namaz paro ya dari rakho wsy bhi nomi yee tu bandy ki apni marzi hay IMAN ek asi chiz hay jo app ko koe party nahi batati k kiya karna hay or na hi app iman ya din k mamly may party ki bat suno gay yee faysla tu app ka dil ko karna hay k app nay namaz parni hay dari rakni hay ghalat kam nahi karna
 
MQM ISLAM k khilaf hargiz nahi hay hum sirf in jali mulao k khilaf hyn jo ISLAM ka nam lay k apny siyasi maqasid nikalty hyn jo khyty hyn k shia ko mar do tu direct janat may jaogay yee mat sochna k yee may suni sunae baty karha hon yee mra zati mushaida hay aasal may mra ek cusin afghanistan gaya tha jahad pay us waqat mra us k sat kafi utna baytna tha tu may us k sat in mazhabi intiha pasand logo say milta raha hon ek bat many wali hay yee log bandy ka dimag asa kar dayty hyn k agr wo bolyn k apny bap ko mar k aao tu banda wo bhi kar guzry un madaris may yahi sikhaya jata tha k shiya kafir , barhlvi kafir in ko maro janat may jao mra cusin tu afganistan chala gaya un ki batu may aa k but may nahi aaya or wsy bhi may BARHALVI honay ki waja say un say dor hi rhyta tha is lye baj gaya or mra cusin jo afganistan gaya tu wo bhi tot pot k wapis aaya or ab tak galiya dayta hay k saly sub apna matlub nikalty hyn islam ka nam istimal kar k

MQM support huddod bill.
 
pls give me some time may tum ko tamam tafsil k sat details send karon ga k yee bill islam k aginast nahi hay i think yee issue laste year ka hay mj ko find out karny k lye thora waqat chaye pls .

MQM support all kind of non-islamic bills previously passed in the assembly.
 
Please mention the nature of bill then only i can reply you or tell you what is aginast ISLAM and what is not.


regarding supporting musharraf, your reply is quite good, but most of the time Alta hussain used his rallies for pressurising the government, but your answer is accepted.
 
thanks bhai k app nay mri koe bat tu mani :)
 
what i remember it was a first ISLAMIC issue ( lal masjid one) jis pay MQM nay rallie nikali warna zada tar in ki rellies tu siyasi issue pay hoti hyn kiya tum bata sakty or kon say ISLAMIC issue pay MQM ki rallie nikli thi  


MQM has a major role if not the full hand, in all kind of illegal activities in karachi whether you agree or not.
 
may is bat say inkar nahi karha hon MQM may bhi mufad parast anasir ghos gay hyn magr jo larky lota lati , bhta khori , ya mobile chiny jsy case may molawais hyn wo un ka zati fall hay is may tanzim ka koe hat nahi or agr tum karachi k news paper utha k paro tu tum ko nazar aayega aj MQM ka fala karkon nazmo zabt ki sangin khilaf warzi karny pay tanzim say kharig kar diya gaya ya mutal kar diya gaya yee wahi log hoty hyn jo in sub kamo may molawais hoty hyn or jsy hi tanzimi zimydaran ko pata chalta hay un ki harkatu k bary may un ko foran tanzim say aalyda kar diya jata hay may tum ko sabot farham kar donga juld hi.
 
Karachi may mar dahar , ghnda gardi , lot mar , mobile chiny may ek bara hisa police ka hay police waly yee kam wahan bhot zada karhy hyn khas kar mobile china is k aalawa mazhabi intiha pasand tanzimay ( siph sahab , laskary jhngvi , iso , shphy mohd , suny thyrirq ) or may tum ko bata chalo is waqat karachi may suny thyriq k undar 80% haqiqi k larky hyn or haqiqi k bary may tu tum ko pata hi hoga k wo kis kisam k log thy un logo ki ghlat harkatu ki waja say hi un ko MQM say bhar kiya gaya tha is k alawa indiviual groups bhi bhot hyn like arshad papu , rahman dakyt , baloch tiger , mughal seher is tara bhot say choty bary group police ki sarprasti may apni karwaya karty hyn or police ko us ka hisa phoncha dayty hyn  
 
nomi bhai karachi ko MQM nay itna nuksan nahi phnchaya hay jitna police or in mazhabi intiha pasando nay or phonch raha hay app logo ko sirf MQM is lye nazar aati hay k app logo ko bataya hi yahi gaya hay k MQM asi hay laykin haqiqat is say qadry aalag hay  
 
nomi i feel k mri waja say group may MQM ka zikar nikla tum ko MQM pasand nahi hay tu zahir hay may bhi pasand nahi honga or tum ko mra mail karna acha bhi nahi lagta hoga is lye may tum say request karta hon k tum mj ko group say remove kar do kiyon k agr may group may rahon ga tu MQM k HAQ PARASTI K PARCHAR  say baz nahi aaon ga  mri waja say tumhara kafi waqat barbad horha hay may sirf app tamam logo ko haqiqat batna chata tha may app logo say yee nahi khyta k app MQM joint kar lo may sirf yee khyta hon k app ALTAF BHAI ka nazarye paro us ko samjo phir us nazarye k uper apni ek tanzim banalo mazlomo k haqoq k lye jagidar , wadyro k khilaf pakisatn k pisy howay tabky k lye koe bat nahi agr tum MQM ko pasnd nahi kar thy MQM k lye nahi but pakistan k lye tu BHAI k nazarye ko follow kar sakty ho na bhai aakhir may mj ko yahi khyna hay k mri waja say tum ko jo taqlif hoe us ki mafi chata hon agr mri koe bat bori lagi ho tu maf kar dayna ek bat yad rakho jitni mohabat tum ISLAM say karty ho utni hi hum log yani MQM waly bhi karty hyn 
 
mayny tum ko uper jo likha hay k may tum ko prove donga agr tum kaho tu wo may tum ko tumhari persnal I.D pay send kar donga.
 
ALLAH HAFIZ
 
PAKISTAN ZINDA ABAD
 
G.A ALTAF BHAI

 
 Reply:   My humble request to you.scri
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (3/May/2007)
We should give such space to all others that we all can co-exist
Asslam O Alaikum
Dear Kashif
If you don’t want to participate in politic then don’t take part, we are not forcing you.
Keep posting nice things which you are doing already.
Difference of opinion doesn’t mean that either you accept my reasons or only one of us can survive.
Don’t you think due to this reason only we have so many problems in our country.
We should give such space to all others that we all can co-exist.

Secondly if some one asks, you are from where, and where from Pakistan,it doesn’t mean soobayut as they keep on asking till your city and some time if they are awre of that city then they will ask for area as well. Many people asked me and in the end they said ohh multan say, city of mangos say.
Similarly, I have very good urdu and whe ever I go people asked me just within from five minutes, are you from karachi?
I don’t hate any Pakistani just on the basis of his origin/language or city.
You are an active member, I am requesting you don’t leave us, if you don’t want to participate in politics then don’t do it.
But we don’t want to miss your khuti mithi mails.
Regads
Allah hafiz Noman
 
 Reply:   Need Action//
Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)
No More Walk With You All

If you are giving suggestion to MQM to�call themselves as Pakistani instead of Muhajir, then what does it mean�Punajbi, Balochi, Pakhtoon, Saraieki....what does it mean buddy....????

 

�i used these word because you liked it that way, i hate myyelf to use these words and i dont want any Pakistani to call any other Pakistani that way, and secondly MQM has started calling themselves party for all in other provinces but in Sindh they are calling themselves in old maner.

 

Talk about the whole Pakistan not Kashif and Noman"¦what the whole our country people are saying themselves if you do not want to accept the truth check in UAE as well what Punjabi and Pashtoo Speaking people saying themselves.

 
Jab Aap Ksi Banday Say, Ksi Punjabi Say Ya Kasi Pakhtoon say milo uae main tu wo sab say pehla sawal ye kartay hain tum India say ho k Pakistan say...answer dia jata hay Pakistan say, wo kehtay hain Pakistan main kahan say , answer dia jata hay Pakistan say kehtay hain wo tu hum bhi Pakistan say , ye batao k Pakistan main kahan say ho .. then phir answer dia jata hay Sindh say ,,kehtay hain yar aap ki Urdu tu bohat acchi hay aap sindh k lagtay nahi ho...ye batao sindh main kahan rehtay ho...phir answe dia jata hay bahi sindh ka hi hon....kehtay nahi yar batao phir answer dia jata hai karachi say...tu kehtay hain aaho....Munda karachi da hay...mqm da hay......janaab aap k peer sahab ka kia haal hai....tu bahi dekho k kon karta hay start elaq parasti , sobaiyat kon karta hay , qoum parasti kon karta hay.....hum ya koi aur......
ye sab batain jo main nay kahi hain ye Allah ko Hazir aur nazir jaan kar main keh rha hon aur bikul sahi keh raha hon.......ye aik do ki bat nahi hay ye 100 main say 99 fisad yehi hota hay........
 
 
 
 

I m not mixing anything here...this is a fact that 90% Urdu Speaking Population support MQM & will support in future too...InshahAllah....b/c now my thinking has been changed that MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people in our country Pakistan. and this thinking will developled to other people tooo....InshahAllah.

 

i am not agree with you that 90% support MQM, there could be 50% supporters and many of them suppot them because of kalshankov as well. and this is the hatred which has been injected in people that MQM is the only party for migrated people. by saying this you are justifying the existance of the parties on the basis of colour/ language/ origin, which is not good. as like this Pakistan cant go towards unity. all parties based on these criterias should be banned.�

You agree or not agree does not matter, you come in Sindh/Karachi and then check"¦ more than 90% people of Karachi support MQM and will support in future too InshahAllah"¦ and MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people"¦.I m not justifying the existence the wrong thing I'm telling you the truth which is existed in our country"¦ people should support MQM"¦.in all areas of Pakistan.

MQM kalashankoove culture nahi rakhti ...jao frontier, dekho punjab main, dekho balochistan main dekho larkana aur thatta main ja kar kon rakhta hay kalashankoove culture....dekho kon banata hay masoom aur mazloom Pakistaniyon ko ghulam ..wo mqm banati hay???, muhajir banatay hain??? , ya wahi k log wahi ki zaban bolnay walay zulam kartay hain ...waderay...jagirdaar.....

 

Karachi/Hyderabad/Sukkar/Mirpur Khas�is the living place of 90% migrated people. And MQM is originated in Karachi and Karachi people made Maie Kolaci to Karachi...Migrated people are very thankfull to Allah SubhabuTala and people of Sindh too, they gave their land to us for living and we made Sindh as a developed province of Pakistan. We have no harsh feeling with any Sindhi speaking people and also they do not have any harsh feelings with us. If you do not belive you can come to Sindh and then check the reality...only Feudal people dislike us b/c we are against feudalism... and we hate feudal in any�respect..in terms of Mullahism too...feudal divide Sindh in to Rural and Urban not for migrated people development and nor for innocent Sindhi speaking people development...they divide Sindh in to Urban and Rural for the the dimination of feudal people in the Rural areas of Sindh....thats why the people of Sindh are poor....and the same thing in Punjab too. NWFP and Balochistan tooo...innocent people are poor......why???? b/c of MQM hatered??????? or MQM was there....why buddy buddy....???????

 

what progress MQM has given to peopl in last 25 years, if MQM activist are living good standered then it is coz of loot maaar, not coz of system change. we need good leaders to change the fate of Pakistani not looters like what we have in whole nation assembly at the moment.

 

Come to Sindh/Karachi/Hyderabad and checks"¦do not believe in me. come and check.

 

MQM means 50% Sindh population. MQM love each and every Pakistanies tooo...People of Karachi loves each and every Pakistanis tooo...but people of Karachi will not bow down their heads�infront of�any feudal....Hum Sirf�Allah Kay Hazoor Jhukhtay Hain.....

 

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People of Karachi are nothing for me, for me Pakistani living in karachi matters only no one tried to force them and no one should.

 

Superb answer but showing hate for Karachities"¦.you are going good"¦Karachi is a part of Pakistan and people of Karachi means people of Pakistan tooo. Samjhay buddy.

 

Hum Na�Ksi Sobay Ki, Na�Ksi Shehar Ki Superioty Qabool Karaygain...Hamaray Nazdeek Sab Aik Jaisay Hain Sab Aik Barabar Hain Chahye�Wo Koi Bhi�Zaban Bolay...Chahye Wo Kahi Say Bhi Ho.....Laikin Taqwa aur Pakistan say Mohabbat Lazmi Hay....�

 

No one should

Yes no one should"¦but some Feudal of big province think like that"¦they are superior..will you deny this fact"¦.

 

MQM is not like other party....other parties are using Islam for their purposes...MQM is not using Islam for politics....

 

but they are using anti-islamic symphythies for their politics.�

 

This is wrong"¦now they will get my sympathy too"¦.

 

You people have only MQMfobia and Karachifobia in your mind and nothing else....

 

�

 

now you have started miing MQM with Karachi, whats the problem with you.

 

b/c MQM is the only party which is doing good for Pakistan

 

but we do not care about your thinking what we want to do we will do...b/c Allah Subhanahu WaTala is with us.

 

Allah is with truth�only, if you are on right path then you will get his blessings if you are not then may Allah guide you.�

 

We are on the right path which leads toward Jannah"¦.the path of Islam"¦we are following Islam correct Islam"¦not made by MMA"¦..

You are trying to give the wrong message to world�that MQM and Karachi people hate other speaking people which is incorrect and totally injustice buddy...I'm not with you...you are doing wrong...

 

�

 

Mr Kashif, you are giving wog message not me, on�this site every one is raising there voice and let the audiance judge wo is right or wrong, i am not judging any thing here, neither guiding people, i put some thing, you put some thing, i didnot stop u neither i�blammed you then how you can blame me. infact at the moment more people are debting in favour of MQM then anti.

 

i dont understand if i am not with you then i am doing unjustice.

 

now you are basically saaying this thing

"joh quaid kaa ghaddar hay

woh mout kaa huqdaar hay"

 

Main ksi musalman kay qatal ko kaisay haqdar qarar day sakta hon bhai meray jot um nay kaha wo bilkul ghalat hay"¦aur bohat hi zada ghalat hay"¦"¦ye choking tum nay Karachi main akar parhi hain"¦.ye sirf aur sirf Altaf Hussain, MQM aur Karachi ko badnam karnay ki aik sazish thi establishment ki"¦"¦.

 

Aap mujhe mashwara nahi day rahay ho na do, laikin mujhe sahi mashwara dainay do k ghalat propanganda and wohi pori ghalat batain dohranay say koi faida nahi hay bhai marey , main nay ye sab batain shoro main bhi kahi thi k sirf aur sirf Pakistan ki bat karo, ye Army ko Pakistan forces ko , MQM ko aur other political parties ko bura bhala kehna choor do"¦.ye batao k ye sab parties sahi kis tarha hon "¦.un hay ye mashwaray do kay wok ager ghalat hain tu sahi kis tarha hon"¦..

 

 

Main nay aaj tak pehlay kabhi bhi mqm ki support nahi  ki thi"¦laikin aap logon kay anti mqm remarks nay mujhe is par majboor kar dia k main support karon"¦..

 

Main dekhonga aur aap logon k liye acchi wish bhi rakhta hon k aap log Pakistan ko better banao, laikin jis tarha say aap log better banana chahtay ho anti remarks day kar is say main motmaien nahi hon"¦.lehaza main aap say guzarish karta hon k mujhe ye batain k website say id remove kis tarha kartay hain"¦"¦"¦

 

Kiu main politics say bahir hi rehna chahta hon bahi , ager marey ksi cousin ko malom chal gia aur ye bat marey mamo tak pohanch gaie to direct Lahore say edhar akar marey haath paaon toor kar mujhe 6 moths k liye ghar par doodh double roti khanay par majboor kar daygain"¦..

 

Lehaza aap meri id is group say remove karo aap ki ain nawazish hogi"¦.

 
Pakistan aur Pakistanyon ka Mukhlis....
Kashif - a Paki of Karachi from UAE.

 
 Reply:   Read these articles as well, f
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)
i want all of you, who are interested in this discussion read these topics as well.
MQM : SEEKING RIGHTS UNDER THE AEGIS OFTHE UNITED NATIONS

MQM Kay 11 Sharam Na'ak Sawaloon Kay Jawabaat

Is Mohajiristan feasible and viable as a state
 
 Reply:   My salutes to you, Adnan. you
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)
MQM has a major role if not the full hand, in all kind of illegal activities in karachi whether you agree or not
Dear Adnan
you are really doing a good job and your party should be proud of you.
you gave every answer in a very good manner.
when i said MQM is not islam loving party, i never meant of individuals, i always meant the leaders.
MQM support huddod bill.
MQM support all kind of non-islamic bills previously passed in the assembly.

regarding supporting musharraf, your reply is quite good, but most of the time Alta hussain used his rallies for pressurising the government, but your answer is accepted.

MQM has a major role if not the full hand, in all kind of illegal activities in karachi whether you agree or not.
 
 Reply:   ISOLATION//sh
Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (2/May/2007)
nomi bhai app k 3no sawalat k jawab hazir hyn
Kashif jis tarha tum nay haqiqat ko samjha hay may tum ko SALAM karta hon mri yahi duwa hay ALLAH say k isi tarha hamary tamam panjabi bhaio ko bhi samaj may aa jay k un k dushman hum nahi balky wadyry jagidar , chodri hyn
 
Kashif as per your request mny 3no sawalo ka jawab likh diya hay
 
1-they are not Islam loving party
 
funny ..... so you are one who i diside who love ISLAM and who is not love ISLAM kia bat hay bhi app ki lagta hay app koe mufti ya AALIMY DIN ho tabhi is tarha ki bat karhy ho mny apny last reply may app ko bataya hay k ALTAF BHAI apni tamam taqrer or biyanat may hamysha QURAN or HADITH ka refference dayty hyn is k aalawa karachi k takriban 90% log MQM ko suport karty hyn or zahir hay dunya ki kitni bari party ya leader kiyon na ho but wo ISLAM YA IMAN say bara nahi ho sakta tum yee bat kis tarha khy sakty ho k karachi , haydrabad or baqi pakistan jahan MQM ko himayat hasil hay wahan k logo nay apny IMAN bach diya yani jo MQM ko chata hay us ki himayat karta hay wo KAFIR hogaya
 
Nomi hum log mutmain hay MQM k himayat kar k or apny iman may bhi bas afsos yahi hay k tu jsy log apni soch dosro pay musalat karny k lye ksi bhi had tak chaly ja sakty ho tum ko aandaza hay tumhari is bat say logo ko kitna duk phonch hoga may kiya kahon yar tum ko ALLAH janta hay k hum ISLAM k khilaf nahi hyn hum kiya koe bhi musalman asa soch bhi nahi sakta  well tum kiya samjty ho dost MQM k logo ka apny app ko musalman hony ka sabot dayny k lye tumhara approval chaye.
 
kiya tum mj ko bata sakty ho tum nay MQM may asi kiya khilafy ISLAM bat daykhi hay mri malomat k lye pls batana zaror 
 

2-they support Musharraf
 
yes they support him but not always jahan pakistan k fayda ho pakistan ki aawam ka fayda ho sirf wahan pay kiya tum news nahi party ho pls see below attachment
 

KALABAGH DAM  ISSUE AND MQM
2005

  • MUTTAHIDA QUAMI MOVEMENT WILL NOT SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE KALABGAH DAM "“ RABITA COMMITTEE
    The Central Co-ordination Committee (Rabita Committee) of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) has unanimously decided not to support the construction of the Kalabagh Dam in its long and emergency meeting held at its Head Office in Karachi and at the International Secretariat in London simultaneously...More

     

  • ALTAF HUSSAIN REFUSES TO SUPPORT GOVERNMENT ON KALABAGH AND ANY OTHER ISSUES OPPOSED TO THE INTEREST OF SINDH
    MQM Founder and leader Altaf Hussain has refused to side with the government on Kalabagh and any other issue which is against the interest, hopes and aspirations of the people of Sindh. He said this while addressing the Haq Parast parliamentarians today...More
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BALOCHISTAN  ISSUE AND MQM
2005

 

  • MQM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ARMY OPERATIONS FOR RESOLUTION OF ISSUES "“ ALTAF HUSSAIN
    INTERVIEW TO VOICE OF AMERICA

    London "“ 16 January 2005 Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) does not believe in army operation for resolving issues and will use all its influence to prevent confrontation...
    More

     
  • MQM COORDINATION COMMITTEE DISCUSSES THE OPTION OF QUITTING THE GOVERNMENT IF AN ARMY OPERATION IS LAUNCHED IN BALOCHISTAN
    Emergency sessions of Muttahida Quami Movement coordination committee on the deteriorating situation in Balochistan were held at Nine Zero... More
     
  • IF AN ARMY OPERATION IS LAUNCHED IN BALOCHISTAN THEN THE MQM WILL QUIT THE GOVERNMENT ALTAF HUSSAIN's TV INTERVIEW ... More  
    FOR COMPLETE AUDIO CLIP OF INTERVIEW CLICK HERE
     
  • ALTAF HUSSAIN OPPOSES BALOCHISTAN OPERATION CALLS FOR R0UND TABLE CONFERENCE ON THE SUBJECT
    The founder leader of Muttahida Quami Movement has called for a round table conference of nationalist leaders from Balochistan to discuss their grievances and search for their solutions on immediate basis...
    More

  •   MMA-MQM PROTEST RALLY AGAINST US AIR STRIKES IN BAJAUR AGENCY
    AND MILITARY ACTION IN BALOCHISTAN (15th January 2006)
    News update 16 January 2006

    DISCUSSION BETWEEN ALTAF HUSSAIN AND QAZI HUSSAIN AHMED
    MQM WILL SUPPORT STEPS TAKEN FOR COUNTRY'S SAFETY AND INTEGRITY
    MQM'S SUPPORT FOR MMA DEMONSTRATION IS A GOOD OMEN

    In the early hours of Sunday, the MQM Founder & Leader Mr Altaf Hussain called President MMA Qazi Hussain Ahmed over the phone from London and assured him of MQM's support and participation over his protest demonstration call against the American bombardment on Bajaur Agency and the military operation in Balochistan. Qazi Hussain Ahmed informed Mr Hussain in detail of the loss of lives and property as a result of US air strikes...More


  • 3-they are the real culprit behind all the violence in Karachi
     
    you just set in PUNJAB and write the mail what you know about karachi  even i gave you thousand of prove who did what but kashif is right YOU HAVE MQM AND ALTAF BHAI FUBIA 

     
     Reply:   ISOLATION//sh
    Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (2/May/2007)
    JAWAB AARZ HAY
    You gave some links,  will gave few links, and then people or time will judge.
     
    Let see

    once my boss told me one hadith "aik waqt aisa aaye gaa jub such aur jhoot kaa faisala kurnaa muskil ho jaaye gaa, keon kay dono taraf bohut acchay log hoon gay, aisay waqt may uss tarf ko jaana jahan pairwii kurnay wali aksuryut achay log hoon".
    and we all can see very easily who are in the party of MQM, i have never seen religious or good charachter people in MQM.
    if you know any, please let me know.
     
    sorry yar but your info about MQM is nothing tum sirf hawa may bat karty ho tum nay kaha k MQM ka religious say taluk nahi hay zahir c bat hay MQM ek siyasi party hay na k mazhabi or jahan tak rahi ISLAM ki bat tu tum ALTAF BHAI ki koe bhi taqrir , biyan utha k dayk lo tum ko pata chal jayga k wo apni taqrir may QURAN O HADITH k kitny hawaly dayty hyn is k alawa yee bat record pay hay k MQM aany k bad KARACHI may shiya , suny fasadat khatam hogay is k alawa MQM ki mazhabi committee bhi hay jis may tamam maslak k logo ko numindagi di gae hay jo ksi mazhabi issue pay apna kirdar aada karti hay 
     
    jahan tak rahi charachter ki bat tu bhai mj koe ek asy bandy ka nam bata do MQM may jis k charachter k bary may news may koe bat aa e ho app ki itla k lye aarz hay k MQM ek wahid party hay jis k taqriban sabhi log high educated hyn or mashry may apna ek muqam rakty hyn tumhari yee bat par k tu mj ko tum say ab hamdardi hony lagi hay kiyon k tum sirf hawa may tair chala rhy ho tum ko tu kuch bhi nahi pata mny socha tha tum ek achy pry likhy samajdar larky hogay jo sachaye ko samj k apny dil o dimag say faysla kary ga but yar sorry to say tum sirf wahi bat karhy jo panjab may rhyny wala ek jahil banda bhi kar sakta hay MQM k bary may kiyon k jo ghalat fhymiya panjab may MQM k khilaf payda ki gae wo tamam logo k dimag may rach bass gae chalo aam logo ka tu samaj may aata hay k un k pass itny wasail nahi k wo sach jany un ko jo bataya gaya un ho nay man kiya but tum jsy pary liky larky tu haqiqat samj sakty hyn na brother phir bhi tum asi baty karhy ho   
     
     
     

    and for me it doesnt matter who killed Hakeem Saeed, by saying doesnt matter, i dont mean that i dont regret on his death, i mean the killer. either it is nawaz or Altaf or bibi, who ever did is the biggest enemy of Pakistan.
    regarding MQM please agai read following articles.
     
     
    i saw above attachment but i didn't get any prove so this is rubish please give me links with prove
     
    Now back to your topic Isolation:
    in manshoor or documents spreading in public no party can be judged. as ofcourse in those documents no one will say to kill some one or spread the terrorism.
    so in own papers every party is best.
    the theory of Isolation is very good and true as well, but is it true with the inclusion of muhajir in it, i doubt, why as newton said "every action has reaction so do we", now part of it is true and some part is doubtful.
     
    which one DOUBTFUL pls advise me ....
     
    Leader left the cuntry in the very best iterest of country, but why he left his soldiers for death, why he ddnt think of Soccratees, who believed "Death can come at any place, but any place cant be my motherland", he drank the poison for truth.
     
    Dost may is bat ka jawab ek bhot hi aasan misal say donga : ek bap das bachy payda kar sakta hay magar 10 bachy mil k ek bap nahi payda kar sakty same theory Leader ship k lye bhi apply hoti hay jis mulk may waziry aazam k bhai ko jali police mukably may mar diya jata hay tu ALTAF BHAI ki zindagi ki kiya zamanat hay wo tu hamari tumhari tarha ek aam insan hyn un k pass to govt koe choti see poste bhi nahi hay or hum us k lye apni jany khoshi say qurban karny ko tayar hyn " HUM KO MANZIL NAHI RHYNUMA CHAYE " JANA CHATY HO KIYON ? B COZ JIN KA QUAID ALTAF BHAI JAYSA HOTA HAY MANZILY UN KA QADAM KHOD CHOMTI HYN.
     
    Tumhari malomat k lye batana chata hon ALTAF BHAI pory dil jan say pakistan aana chaty hyn but aawam ki janib say is k ijazat nahi di jati kiyon k hum mar sakty hyn but QUAID ko kuch ho ALLAH NA KARY ye bardasht nahi kar sakty tum agr kabhi BHAI ki taqrir suno tu son lyna k har taqrir may wo pakistan aany ki ijazat talab karty hyn public say.
     
    this threat which is written in your article "kissi baray nuqsaan ki zimmay daar hakumat ho gee", can u explain, what he meant by this.
     
    yee article jis waqat likha gaya tha us waqat MQM k uper zulm ki intiha kar di gae thi har roz MQM k char say panch karkun jali police mukably may shahid kiye jarhy thy aawam may gham o ghusa barta jarha tha BHAI ko dar tha k kahin aawam jazbat may aa k koe bara ikdam na utha dayn wo musalsal sabar ki talqin karhy thy but sat may un ho nay nay govt ko batana zarori samja k halat is qadar kharab mat karo k aawam mri bat soony say bhi inkar kar day
     
    you placed many pics of those MQM activist who killed by army or MQM(H), but you didnt include the pics or news of those who killed by MQM, or there is no one killed by MQM.
     
    i don't have . do u have ? i think you have basis of that you are asking me i request please send me that pic i want see.
     
    "Auraat ki imamat may numaaz-e-janaza", un-islamic act like this only MQM can do, and this is the main reason due to which i am against MQM.
     
    Auraat ko namazy janaza parhaty howa daykh kar app nay MQM k uper fatwa jari kardiya kiya yee jany ki app nay taqlif  bhi gawara ki k asa kiyon howa kiya waja thi k ek aurat ko namazy janaza parhana para or aurtu ko hi Qabristan layjana parha nomi maa bhany sub ki hoti hyn or sub ko un ki izat utni hi piyari hoti hay jitni tum ko ya mj apni maa bhyno ki ksi ko gawara nahi hota k us k maa bhyny rod pay aayn janty ho aaysa kiyon howa tha porany waqtu may ek SUWAR waziry dakla howa karta tha KUTA NASEER ULO BABAR us nay yee ilan karwaya tha k jo bhi larka is janazy may nazar aa a us ko pakar k jali mokably may khatam kar dyna un waqtu may jo halat karachi k thy wo wahi log janty hyn jin pay guzri tum jsy log sirf door bhyt k baty hi kar sakty ho or fatwy day sakty ho kabhi ksi k dard k apny uper rak k socho tum ko sub sahi nazar aa a ga mry bhai
     
    will you tell all of us, why the name of party changed from muhajir Qaumi moment to mutaida Qaumi moment.
     
    as you know yee thyriq Muhajiro k uper hony waly zulm or nainsafio k khilaf shor ki gae jub hum MQM ko Muhjairo ki mukaml himayat hasil hoe or us nay un k paryshanio ko taklifo isamblio may utahya tu us k bat say MQM ko pakistan k muktalif ilako say khatot milna shoro howay k app logo ka nazarya itna acha hay magar us ko sirf Muhajiro k lye mhydod kar diya hay kiya baqi pakistano ki tarf app log ki koe zimydai nahi nikalti is qisam k khatot k bad faysla kiya gaya k MQM k daiyra barha k pory mulk may phyla diya jay or ab tama pakistanio k haqoq ki bat ki jay or lafz muhajir ko bhola k pakistan ki bat ki jay us k bad bhai ki taraf say ilan kiya gaya k aj say hum new sindhi hongay an k muhajir jis ko tamam logo nay qabol kar lya part k undar
     
    well kiya tum mj ko batana pasnd karo gay tum ko kiya taqliF hay MUTAIDA nam say ? darty hogay na MQM k ab MQM pory pakistan may siyasi shaor ujagar kar say gi tu tum jaysi JAGIDARANA soch rakny waly logo ka kiya hoga.
     
    and yes you was right Altaf bhai always asked his activist to remain calm, but accidently every time he asked for calmness, the murders and reaction took place.
     
    if Altaf bhai dont have grip on party then why dont he leave the leader ship.
     
    funny yar agr tumhari thori bhot nazar bhi pakistan ki siyasi party pay ho tu tum kabhi asi bat na karty kiyon k yee bat tu pory pakistan k siyasi leader manty hyn k as leader jo grip ALTAF BHAI ki apni karkono pay hay us ki misal nahi milti jis ka barmala ilan ek zamany may app k nawaz nay bhi kiya hay mny jis waqat ki bat ki us waqat halat intihai kharab thy rabtu ka faqdan tha MQM k tamam QIYADAT or KAKON under ground thy har taraf police waly jalado ki tarha MQM k karkono ko dhond rhy thy k kahin mil jayn tu un ko mar k apni piyas bhojayn may aj tum ko police ki barbiyat k mazid sabot farham karon ga us waqat MQM ka kam buzurg karkon or khawatino nay sambhala howa tha un k sat jo salok kiya gaya us ka sabot bhi app ko pash karon ga  
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    ( NOMI BHAI KUCH KHYNA PASAND KARNY GAY IS PIC K BARY MAY )
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    tha links i have given above have details of MQM crimes, now the audiance or time will judge it self.
     
    tum nay sirf wo baty likhi hyn jis tum ko batay gayin hyn jin ka haqiqat say koe taluk nahi hay nomi bhai
     

     
     Reply:   you are totally talking in neg
    Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)
    you can think what you want to, but on the basis of your thinking only you can't judge others

    Now i will give you my reply point by point

    �

    If you are giving suggestion to MQM to�call themselves as Pakistani instead of Muhajir, then what does it mean�Punajbi, Balochi, Pakhtoon, Saraieki....what does it mean buddy....????

    �i used these word because you liked it that way, i hate myyelf to use these words and i dont want any Pakistani to call any other Pakistani that way, and secondly MQM has started calling themselves party for all in other provinces but in Sindh they are calling themselves in old maner.


    I m not mixing anything here...this is a fact that 90% Urdu Speaking Population support MQM & will support in future too...InshahAllah....b/c now my thinking has been changed that MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people in our country Pakistan. and this thinking will developled to other people tooo....InshahAllah.

    i am not agree with you that 90% support MQM, there could be 50% supporters and many of them suppot them because of kalshankov as well. and this is the hatred which has been injected in people that MQM is the only party for migrated people. by saying this you are justifying the existance of the parties on the basis of colour/ language/ origin, which is not good. as like this Pakistan cant go towards unity. all parties based on these criterias should be banned.�


    Karachi/Hyderabad/Sukkar/Mirpur Khas�is the living place of 90% migrated people. And MQM is originated in Karachi and Karachi people made Maie Kolaci to Karachi...Migrated people are very thankfull to Allah SubhabuTala and people of Sindh too, they gave their land to us for living and we made Sindh as a developed province of Pakistan. We have no harsh feeling with any Sindhi speaking people and also they do not have any harsh feelings with us. If you do not belive you can come to Sindh and then check the reality...only Feudal people dislike us b/c we are against feudalism... and we hate feudal in any�respect..in terms of Mullahism too...feudal divide Sindh in to Rural and Urban not for migrated people development and nor for innocent Sindhi speaking people development...they divide Sindh in to Urban and Rural for the the dimination of feudal people in the Rural areas of Sindh....thats why the people of Sindh are poor....and the same thing in Punjab too. NWFP and Balochistan tooo...innocent people are poor......why???? b/c of MQM hatered??????? or MQM was there....why buddy buddy....???????

    what progress MQM has given to peopl in last 25 years, if MQM activist are living good standered then it is coz of loot maaar, not coz of system change. we need good leaders to change the fate of Pakistani not looters like what we have in whole nation assembly at the moment.


    MQM means 50% Sindh population. MQM love each and every Pakistanies tooo...People of Karachi loves each and every Pakistanis tooo...but people of Karachi will not bow down their heads�infront of�any feudal....Hum Sirf�Allah Kay Hazoor Jhukhtay Hain.....

    �

    People of Karachi are nothing for me, for me Pakistani living in karachi matters only no one tried to force them and no one should.


    Hum Na�Ksi Sobay Ki, Na�Ksi Shehar Ki Superioty Qabool Karaygain...Hamaray Nazdeek Sab Aik Jaisay Hain Sab Aik Barabar Hain Chahye�Wo Koi Bhi�Zaban Bolay...Chahye Wo Kahi Say Bhi Ho.....Laikin Taqwa aur Pakistan say Mohabbat Lazmi Hay....�

    No one should


    MQM is not like other party....other parties are using Islam for their purposes...MQM is not using Islam for politics....


    but they are using anti-islamic symphythies for their politics.�


    You people have only MQMfobia and Karachifobia in your mind and nothing else....

    �

    now you have started miing MQM with Karachi, whats the problem with you.

    but we do not care about your thinking what we want to do we will do...b/c Allah Subhanahu WaTala is with us.


    Allah is with truth�only, if you are on right path then you will get his blessings if you are not then may Allah guide you.�


    You are trying to give the wrong message to world�that MQM and Karachi people hate other speaking people which is incorrect and totally injustice buddy...I'm not with you...you are doing wrong...

    �

    Mr Kashif, you are giving wog message not me, on�this site every one is raising there voice and let the audiance judge wo is right or wrong, i am not judging any thing here, neither guiding people, i put some thing, you put some thing, i didnot stop u neither i�blammed you then how you can blame me. infact at the moment more people are debting in favour of MQM then anti.

    i dont understand if i am not with you then i am doing unjustice.

    now you are basically saaying this thing
    "joh quaid kaa ghaddar hay
    woh mout kaa huqdaar hay"


     
     Reply:   We are Pakistani - We Love All
    Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)
    MQM means 90% Karachities i.e. Pakistanies of Karachi
    If you are giving suggestion to MQM to call themselves as Pakistani instead of Muhajir, then what does it mean Punajbi, Balochi, Pakhtoon, Saraieki....what does it mean buddy....????
     

    I m not mixing anything here...this is a fact that 90% Urdu Speaking Population support MQM & will support in future too...InshahAllah....b/c now my thinking has been changed that MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people in our country Pakistan. and this thinking will developled to other people tooo....InshahAllah.

     

    Karachi/Hyderabad/Sukkar/Mirpur Khas is the living place of 90% migrated people. And MQM is originated in Karachi and Karachi people made Maie Kolaci to Karachi...Migrated people are very thankfull to Allah SubhabuTala and people of Sindh too, they gave their land to us for living and we made Sindh as a developed province of Pakistan. We have no harsh feeling with any Sindhi speaking people and also they do not have any harsh feelings with us. If you do not belive you can come to Sindh and then check the reality...only Feudal people dislike us b/c we are against feudalism... and we hate feudal in any respect..in terms of Mullahism too...feudal divide Sindh in to Rural and Urban not for migrated people development and nor for innocent Sindhi speaking people development...they divide Sindh in to Urban and Rural for the the dimination of feudal people in the Rural areas of Sindh....thats why the people of Sindh are poor....and the same thing in Punjab too. NWFP and Balochistan tooo...innocent people are poor......why???? b/c of MQM hatered??????? or MQM was there....why buddy buddy....???????

     

     

    MQM means 50% Sindh population. MQM love each and every Pakistanies tooo...People of Karachi loves each and every Pakistanis tooo...but people of Karachi will not bow down their heads infront of any feudal....Hum Sirf Allah Kay Hazoor Jhukhtay Hain.....

    Hum Na Ksi Sobay Ki, Na Ksi Shehar Ki Superioty Qabool Karaygain...Hamaray Nazdeek Sab Aik Jaisay Hain Sab Aik Barabar Hain Chahye Wo Koi Bhi Zaban Bolay...Chahye Wo Kahi Say Bhi Ho.....Laikin Taqwa aur Pakistan say Mohabbat Lazmi Hay.... 

     

     

    MQM is not like other party....other parties are using Islam for their purposes...MQM is not using Islam for politics....

     

    You people have only MQMfobia and Karachifobia in your mind and nothing else....

    but we do not care about your thinking what we want to do we will do...b/c Allah Subhanahu WaTala is with us.

     

    You are trying to give the wrong message to world that MQM and Karachi people hate other speaking people which is incorrect and totally injustice buddy...I'm not with you...you are doing wrong...

    Karachi people and MQM people love each and every Pakistanies.

     

    Regards,

    Kashif

     

     

     

     

     
     
     

     
     Reply:   i love Pakistan, Pakistani, Pa
    Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)
    i love Pakistan, Pakistani, Pathan, Balochi, Punjabi,Sindhi,sirayki,Muhajir etc
    If i said this (you people didn't try to justify or Cross argue the Numaaz-e-junazaz by womanÛ”
    ), then how it become harsh thing, when i said this till that time you people didn't cross argue this thing.
    if you thing for every thing whether small or big we have right to cross the boundaries of Islam, then i dont have to say anything.

    and plz plz, i am against MQM, not Muhajir.
    why you people are trying to mix Muhajir and MQM, i am Muhajir (if u want to call that way), but not MQM activist.
    so if i say MQM doesn't like Islam then it means that i am talking about MQM leaders.
    previously in the start of 80's if Sindhi people were against Muhajir then now MQM is against them.
    now MQM is against Punjabi as well.
    now the problem was between Sindhi and Muhajir in the start, now it becomes between all and MQM.
    and MQM always do everything in the name of Muhajir.
    which i dont like at all.
    if Altaf hussain really want to do politics then he should change his mind as well as he changed the name of Party.
    i will like him if he instead of calling Muhajir community again and again start calling Pakistani.
    i can digest his existence as a secular party but not as Lissani party.

    and i didn't use any word against Karachi, then how you can say that i am after Karachi.
    the wordings like this can misguide people and spread hatred. which MQM did and sorry to say, you are doing right now as well.
    i love Pakistan, Pakistani, Pathan, Balochi, Punjabi,Sindhi,sirayki,Muhajir etc
     
     Reply:   لیجئے پڑھئے اپنی تلخ بات۔
    Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)

    you people didn't try to justify or Cross argue the Numaaz-e-junazaz by woman۔

    کس نے عورتوں کی امامت نماز پڑھانے کو جائز قرار دیا ھے یا اس کو صحیح سمجھتا ھے۔؟؟؟ میں نے کہا تھا ھاں؟؟؟؟

    عورتوں نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائ اس وجہ سے کہ اس وقت پنجاب رینجمٹ، پنجاب رینجرز اور پنجاب پولیس نے مہاجر لڑکوں کو باہر آنے پر گولی مار دینے کا کہا تھا، وہ شہید کر رھے تھے مہاجروں کو۔ اس وقت کسی مذہبی اور سیاسی تنظیم نے یہ خیال نہیں کیا کہ ایک مسلمان کی نماز جنازہ پڑھانی ھے صالح منافق ملاّ۔ مجبوراً ایک مظلوم اور معصوم مومن مہاجر عورت نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائی ۔ اللّلہ
    رب العزت اس نماز کو قبول کرے بے شک اللّلہ بڑا غفور الرحیم ھے۔

    نعمان آپ کیسے کہ سکتے ھو کہ ایم کیو ایم کے لوگ اسلام پسند نہں ھیں بڈی خوف کرو یار الللہ کا۔ تمام مہاجر، تمام ھجرت کر کے آنے والے، تمام کراچی کے لوگ مسلمان ھیں اور اللّلہ اور رسول اللّلہ صلی اللّلہ علیہ وآلیہ وسلم سے پیار کرتے ھیں ، اسلام پسند ھیں۔ غیر اسلام پسند کہ کر ھماری بے عزتی مت کرو دوست۔ سمجھے۔

    آپ یہ کیسے کہ سکتے ھو کہ ایم کیو ایم نے نفرت پیدا کی۔ ؟؟؟؟

    ھماری زندگی کا مقصد دین اسلام کی سر بلندی
    ھم اسی لیے مسلمان اسی لیے پاکستانی


    آپ کراچی کے پیچھے کیوں پڑے ھوے ھو بھائی۔
    ایم کیو ایم کے بارے میں مجھے زیادہ نہیں معلوم ، عدنان بھائ اگر آپ پڑھ رھے ھو تو آپ بتاؤ نعمان بھائ کو۔

    اللہ حافظ
     
     Reply:   Kashif you can think, what you
    Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)
    i love Islam, in short

    just give me one favor, let me know which "Tulkh baat i said", did i delete the article regarding who killed Hakim Saeed, did i cross argue that, no i didn't.
    if Nawaz Sharif killed him, then give him punishment , i dont mind and why should i.
    i just believe in one thing, the truth.
    that truth is MQM is a party of hatred and have no love for Islam.
    for me only one thing mater and that is Islam.
    if you people cant understand this reason, then i cant help you to understand this as well.

    apart from the violent past of the MQM
    i just want to tell you three basic reasons why i dont like MQM
    1-they are not Islam loving party
    2-they support Musharraf
    3-they are the real culprit behind all the violence in Karachi.


     
     Reply:   نعمان آپ کی سوچ سے میں اگری نہیں
    Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)

    نعمان آپ لوگوں کی تلخ باتوں سے انسان مجور ھو کر یقینن اور مزید ساتھ دے گا ایم کیو ایم کا۔
    اور میں بھی اب ان ہی لوگوں کا ساتھ دونگا۔

    حکیم محمد سعید کو نواز شریف نے قتل کر وایا ھے۔ اس سچ کو کیوں نہیں تسلیم کر رھے ھیں لوگ۔

    کیوں اس کا ساتھ دے رھے ھیں کیوں؟؟؟

    میں اب تک ایم کیو ایم کا نہیں تھا لیکن اب ساری ھمدردیاں ایم کیو ایم کے ساتھ ھیں۔

    عورتوں نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائ اس وجہ سے کہ اس وقت پنجاب رینجمٹ، پنجاب رینجرز اور پنجاب پولیس نے مہاجر
    لڑکوں کو باہر آنے پر گولی مار دینے کا کہا تھا، وہ شہید کر رھے تھے مہاجروں کو۔ اس وقت کسی مذہبی اور سیاسی تنظیم نے یہ خیال نہیں کیا کہ ایک مسلمان کی نماز جنازہ پڑھانی ھے صالح منافق ملاّ۔ مجبوراً ایک مظلوم اور معصوم مومن مہاجر عورت نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائی ۔ اللّلہ
    رب العزت اس نماز کو قبول کرے بے شک اللّلہ بڑا غفور الرحیم ھے۔

    عدنان بہائی اگر آپ پڑھ رھے ھو یہ تو میں آپ کو بتاتا چلوں کے میرا ننھیال پنجاب زندہ دلانے میں رھتے ھیں گزشتہ ساٹھ سالوں سے اور میرے ماموں، کزن وغیرہ وغیرہ پنجاب رینجمٹ میں ھی ھیں اور میں صرف ان لوگوں کی وجہ سے آج تک ایم کیو ایم کو سپورٹ نہیں کیا تھا۔
    حلانکہ میرے ددھیال کراچی کے کافی سارے لوگ ایم کیو ایم کو سپورٹ کرتے ھیں ھمیں چھوڑ کر ۔ لیکن مجھے لگ رھا ھے کہ میں بھی اب ڈنکے کی چوٹ پر ایم کیو ایم کو ھی سپورٹ کروں۔ کیونکہ ھر بندے کو اپنی قبر میں جانا ھے اپنے نام اعمال کے ساتھ اب مجھے یہ بات سمجھ آگئی ھے۔
     
     Reply:   Kashif, truth is truth, whethe
    Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)
    those sites could be Indian, but every thing is stated there is with reference of dates and events so its difficul to deny them. if you really want to deny them then o date by date and event
    this link is still much more neutral then MQM site or KarachiPage. as both sites were propagating just in one direction.
    why karachiPage dont have any proof against MQM or PPP. i dont judge people or site based upon their origin, i judge or try to judge every thing on merit of the material..
    and please also inform me what right doings Altaf bhai is doing?
    you people didn't try to justify or Cross argue the Numaaz-e-junazaz by woman. and the overall character of MQM activist.
    truth will remain truth whether we accept it or not, it stands for both f us
     
     Reply:   نعمان آپ نے جو لینک دی ھیں وہ انڈ
    Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (1/May/2007)

    نعمان بہائی آپ نے جو لینک دی ھیں وہ انڈیا کی ھیں۔ اور وہ ویب سائیٹ انڈیا سے ٓاپریٹ ھوتی ھے۔ لہزا اس لینک پر اعتبار نہیں کیا جا سکتا۔ اور لوگوں کو انڈیا کی باتوں پر اعتبار نہیں کرنا چاھئے۔ وہ تو ھر پاکستانی کو دھشت گرد کہتے ھیں۔


    الطاف حسین نے کہا کہ کسی بڑے نقصان کی زم دار حکومت ھو گی۔ یہ کوئی غلط بات نہیں ھے اسی طرح کی بات نواز بدبودار، بی بی، فضل نے بہی کہی ھیں کہ ملک
    ٹوٹنے کی ذم داری حکومت پر ھو گی۔


    عدنان بھائی آپ نے میری آنکھیں کھول دی ھیں۔ میں الطاف حسین کی اب مخالفت صحیح کام پر نہیں کرونگا۔ میں اللّلہ رب العزت سے معافی مانگتا ھوں کے مجھے معاف کر دے میں نے قائد حق پرست کو کافی برا کہا تھا۔ اللّلہ مجھے معا ف کرے آمین۔
     
     Reply:   My answer to isolation.script
    Replied by(Noman) Replied on (1/May/2007)
    I really appreciate your efforts, and really brother if MQM got all activist like you then it can flourish.but my first choice will be only that party which loves and endorse Islam.
    y ou gave some links,  will gave few links, and then people or time will judge.
    once my boss told me one hadith "aik waqt aisa aaye gaa jub such aur jhoot kaa faisala kurnaa muskil ho jaaye gaa, keon kay dono taraf bohut acchay log hoon gay, aisay waqt may uss tarf ko jaana jahan pairwii kurnay wali aksuryut achay log hoon".
    and we all can see very easily who are in the party of MQM, i have never seen religious or good charachter people in MQM.
    if you know any, please let me know.
    and for me it doesnt matter who killed Hakeem Saeed, by saying doesnt matter, i dont mean that i dont regret on his death, i mean the killer. either it is nawaz or Altaf or bibi, who ever did is the biggest enemy of Pakistan.
    regarding MQM please agai read following articles.
    http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forum.asp?PageNo=1&GroupID=1&ArticleID=734
    http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forum.asp?PageNo=1&GroupID=1&ArticleID=729
     
    Now back to your topic Isolation:
    in manshoor or documents spreading in public no party can be judged. as ofcourse in those documents no one will say to kill some one or spread the terrorism.
    so in own papers every party is best.
    the theory of Isolation is very good and true as well, but is it true with the inclusion of muhajir in it, i doubt, why as newton said "every action has reaction so do we", now part of it is true and some part is doubtful.
    Leader left the cuntry in the very best iterest of country, but why he left his soldiers for death, why he ddnt think of Soccratees, who believed "Death can come at any place, but any place cant be my motherland", he drank the poison for truth.
    this threat which is written in your article "kissi baray nuqsaan ki zimmay daar hakumat ho gee", can u explain, what he meant by this.
     
    you placed many pics of those MQM activist who killed by army or MQM(H), but you didnt include the pics or news of those who killed by MQM, or there is no one killed by MQM.
     
    "Auraat ki imamat may numaaz-e-janaza", un-islamic act like this only MQM can do, and this is the main reason due to which i am against MQM.
     
    will you tell all of us, why the name of party changed from muhajir Qaumi moment to mutaida Qaumi moment.
     
    and yes you was right Altaf bhai always asked his activist to remain calm, but accidently every time he asked for calmness, the murders and reaction took place.
    if Altaf bhai dont have grip on party then why dont he leave the leader ship.
     
    tha links i have given above have details of MQM crimes, now the audiance or time will judge it self.
     
     

     
     Reply:   hussnain//shy
    Replied by(moonraza) Replied on (1/May/2007)

    dear all ,
     
    i will reply for "ISOLATION" soon
     
    thanks,
    Husssnain

     
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