If you are giving suggestion to MQM to�call themselves as Pakistani instead of Muhajir, then what does it mean�Punajbi, Balochi, Pakhtoon, Saraieki....what does it mean buddy....????

�i used these word because you liked it that way, i hate myyelf to use these words and i dont want any Pakistani to call any other Pakistani that way, and secondly MQM has started calling themselves party for all in other provinces but in Sindh they are calling themselves in old maner.

Talk about the whole Pakistan not Kashif and Noman"¦what the whole our country people are saying themselves if you do not want to accept the truth check in UAE as well what Punjabi and Pashtoo Speaking people saying themselves.

I m not mixing anything here...this is a fact that 90% Urdu Speaking Population support MQM & will support in future too...InshahAllah....b/c now my thinking has been changed that MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people in our country Pakistan. and this thinking will developled to other people tooo....InshahAllah.

i am not agree with you that 90% support MQM, there could be 50% supporters and many of them suppot them because of kalshankov as well. and this is the hatred which has been injected in people that MQM is the only party for migrated people. by saying this you are justifying the existance of the parties on the basis of colour/ language/ origin, which is not good. as like this Pakistan cant go towards unity. all parties based on these criterias should be banned.�

You agree or not agree does not matter, you come in Sindh/Karachi and then check"¦ more than 90% people of Karachi support MQM and will support in future too InshahAllah"¦ and MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people"¦.I m not justifying the existence the wrong thing I'm telling you the truth which is existed in our country"¦ people should support MQM"¦.in all areas of Pakistan.

Karachi/Hyderabad/Sukkar/Mirpur Khas�is the living place of 90% migrated people. And MQM is originated in Karachi and Karachi people made Maie Kolaci to Karachi...Migrated people are very thankfull to Allah SubhabuTala and people of Sindh too, they gave their land to us for living and we made Sindh as a developed province of Pakistan. We have no harsh feeling with any Sindhi speaking people and also they do not have any harsh feelings with us. If you do not belive you can come to Sindh and then check the reality...only Feudal people dislike us b/c we are against feudalism... and we hate feudal in any�respect..in terms of Mullahism too...feudal divide Sindh in to Rural and Urban not for migrated people development and nor for innocent Sindhi speaking people development...they divide Sindh in to Urban and Rural for the the dimination of feudal people in the Rural areas of Sindh....thats why the people of Sindh are poor....and the same thing in Punjab too. NWFP and Balochistan tooo...innocent people are poor......why???? b/c of MQM hatered??????? or MQM was there....why buddy buddy....???????

what progress MQM has given to peopl in last 25 years, if MQM activist are living good standered then it is coz of loot maaar, not coz of system change. we need good leaders to change the fate of Pakistani not looters like what we have in whole nation assembly at the moment.

Come to Sindh/Karachi/Hyderabad and checks"¦do not believe in me. come and check.

MQM means 50% Sindh population. MQM love each and every Pakistanies tooo...People of Karachi loves each and every Pakistanis tooo...but people of Karachi will not bow down their heads�infront of�any feudal....Hum Sirf�Allah Kay Hazoor Jhukhtay Hain.....

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People of Karachi are nothing for me, for me Pakistani living in karachi matters only no one tried to force them and no one should.

Superb answer but showing hate for Karachities"¦.you are going good"¦Karachi is a part of Pakistan and people of Karachi means people of Pakistan tooo. Samjhay buddy.

Hum Na�Ksi Sobay Ki, Na�Ksi Shehar Ki Superioty Qabool Karaygain...Hamaray Nazdeek Sab Aik Jaisay Hain Sab Aik Barabar Hain Chahye�Wo Koi Bhi�Zaban Bolay...Chahye Wo Kahi Say Bhi Ho.....Laikin Taqwa aur Pakistan say Mohabbat Lazmi Hay....�

No one should

Yes no one should"¦but some Feudal of big province think like that"¦they are superior..will you deny this fact"¦.

MQM is not like other party....other parties are using Islam for their purposes...MQM is not using Islam for politics....

but they are using anti-islamic symphythies for their politics.�

This is wrong"¦now they will get my sympathy too"¦.

You people have only MQMfobia and Karachifobia in your mind and nothing else....

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now you have started miing MQM with Karachi, whats the problem with you.

b/c MQM is the only party which is doing good for Pakistan"¦

but we do not care about your thinking what we want to do we will do...b/c Allah Subhanahu WaTala is with us.

Allah is with truth�only, if you are on right path then you will get his blessings if you are not then may Allah guide you.�

We are on the right path which leads toward Jannah"¦.the path of Islam"¦we are following Islam correct Islam"¦not made by MMA"¦..

You are trying to give the wrong message to world�that MQM and Karachi people hate other speaking people which is incorrect and totally injustice buddy...I'm not with you...you are doing wrong...

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Mr Kashif, you are giving wog message not me, on�this site every one is raising there voice and let the audiance judge wo is right or wrong, i am not judging any thing here, neither guiding people, i put some thing, you put some thing, i didnot stop u neither i�blammed you then how you can blame me. infact at the moment more people are debting in favour of MQM then anti.

i dont understand if i am not with you then i am doing unjustice.

now you are basically saaying this thing

"joh quaid kaa ghaddar hay

woh mout kaa huqdaar hay"

Main ksi musalman kay qatal ko kaisay haqdar qarar day sakta hon bhai meray jot um nay kaha wo bilkul ghalat hay"¦aur bohat hi zada ghalat hay"¦"¦ye choking tum nay Karachi main akar parhi hain"¦.ye sirf aur sirf Altaf Hussain, MQM aur Karachi ko badnam karnay ki aik sazish thi establishment ki"¦"¦.

Aap mujhe mashwara nahi day rahay ho na do, laikin mujhe sahi mashwara dainay do k ghalat propanganda and wohi pori ghalat batain dohranay say koi faida nahi hay bhai marey , main nay ye sab batain shoro main bhi kahi thi k sirf aur sirf Pakistan ki bat karo, ye Army ko Pakistan forces ko , MQM ko aur other political parties ko bura bhala kehna choor do"¦.ye batao k ye sab parties sahi kis tarha hon "¦.un hay ye mashwaray do kay wok ager ghalat hain tu sahi kis tarha hon"¦..

Main nay aaj tak pehlay kabhi bhi mqm ki support nahi  ki thi"¦laikin aap logon kay anti mqm remarks nay mujhe is par majboor kar dia k main support karon"¦..

Main dekhonga aur aap logon k liye acchi wish bhi rakhta hon k aap log Pakistan ko better banao, laikin jis tarha say aap log better banana chahtay ho anti remarks day kar is say main motmaien nahi hon"¦.lehaza main aap say guzarish karta hon k mujhe ye batain k website say id remove kis tarha kartay hain"¦"¦"¦

Kiu main politics say bahir hi rehna chahta hon bahi , ager marey ksi cousin ko malom chal gia aur ye bat marey mamo tak pohanch gaie to direct Lahore say edhar akar marey haath paaon toor kar mujhe 6 moths k liye ghar par doodh double roti khanay par majboor kar daygain"¦..

Lehaza aap meri id is group say remove karo aap ki ain nawazish hogi"¦.

i want all of you, who are interested in this discussion read these topics as well.
MQM : SEEKING RIGHTS UNDER THE AEGIS OFTHE UNITED NATIONS

MQM Kay 11 Sharam Na'ak Sawaloon Kay Jawabaat

Is Mohajiristan feasible and viable as a state
 

 Reply:   My salutes to you, Adnan. you

Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)

MQM has a major role if not the full hand, in all kind of illegal activities in karachi whether you agree or not
Dear Adnan
you are really doing a good job and your party should be proud of you.
you gave every answer in a very good manner.
when i said MQM is not islam loving party, i never meant of individuals, i always meant the leaders.
MQM support huddod bill.
MQM support all kind of non-islamic bills previously passed in the assembly.

regarding supporting musharraf, your reply is quite good, but most of the time Alta hussain used his rallies for pressurising the government, but your answer is accepted.

MQM has a major role if not the full hand, in all kind of illegal activities in karachi whether you agree or not.
 

 Reply:   ISOLATION//sh

Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (2/May/2007)

nomi bhai app k 3no sawalat k jawab hazir hyn
Kashif jis tarha tum nay haqiqat ko samjha hay may tum ko SALAM karta hon mri yahi duwa hay ALLAH say k isi tarha hamary tamam panjabi bhaio ko bhi samaj may aa jay k un k dushman hum nahi balky wadyry jagidar , chodri hyn

 

Kashif as per your request mny 3no sawalo ka jawab likh diya hay

 

1-they are not Islam loving party

 

funny ..... so you are one who i diside who love ISLAM and who is not love ISLAM kia bat hay bhi app ki lagta hay app koe mufti ya AALIMY DIN ho tabhi is tarha ki bat karhy ho mny apny last reply may app ko bataya hay k ALTAF BHAI apni tamam taqrer or biyanat may hamysha QURAN or HADITH ka refference dayty hyn is k aalawa karachi k takriban 90% log MQM ko suport karty hyn or zahir hay dunya ki kitni bari party ya leader kiyon na ho but wo ISLAM YA IMAN say bara nahi ho sakta tum yee bat kis tarha khy sakty ho k karachi , haydrabad or baqi pakistan jahan MQM ko himayat hasil hay wahan k logo nay apny IMAN bach diya yani jo MQM ko chata hay us ki himayat karta hay wo KAFIR hogaya

 

Nomi hum log mutmain hay MQM k himayat kar k or apny iman may bhi bas afsos yahi hay k tu jsy log apni soch dosro pay musalat karny k lye ksi bhi had tak chaly ja sakty ho tum ko aandaza hay tumhari is bat say logo ko kitna duk phonch hoga may kiya kahon yar tum ko ALLAH janta hay k hum ISLAM k khilaf nahi hyn hum kiya koe bhi musalman asa soch bhi nahi sakta  well tum kiya samjty ho dost MQM k logo ka apny app ko musalman hony ka sabot dayny k lye tumhara approval chaye.

 

kiya tum mj ko bata sakty ho tum nay MQM may asi kiya khilafy ISLAM bat daykhi hay mri malomat k lye pls batana zaror 

 

2-they support Musharraf

 

yes they support him but not always jahan pakistan k fayda ho pakistan ki aawam ka fayda ho sirf wahan pay kiya tum news nahi party ho pls see below attachment

 

KALABAGH DAM  ISSUE AND MQM
2005

• MUTTAHIDA QUAMI MOVEMENT WILL NOT SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE KALABGAH DAM "“ RABITA COMMITTEE
  The Central Co-ordination Committee (Rabita Committee) of Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) has unanimously decided not to support the construction of the Kalabagh Dam in its long and emergency meeting held at its Head Office in Karachi and at the International Secretariat in London simultaneously...More
   

• ALTAF HUSSAIN REFUSES TO SUPPORT GOVERNMENT ON KALABAGH AND ANY OTHER ISSUES OPPOSED TO THE INTEREST OF SINDH
  MQM Founder and leader Altaf Hussain has refused to side with the government on Kalabagh and any other issue which is against the interest, hopes and aspirations of the people of Sindh. He said this while addressing the Haq Parast parliamentarians today...More
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BALOCHISTAN  ISSUE AND MQM
2005

 

MQM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ARMY OPERATIONS FOR RESOLUTION OF ISSUES "“ ALTAF HUSSAIN
INTERVIEW TO VOICE OF AMERICA
London "“ 16 January 2005 Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) does not believe in army operation for resolving issues and will use all its influence to prevent confrontation...More
 

MQM COORDINATION COMMITTEE DISCUSSES THE OPTION OF QUITTING THE GOVERNMENT IF AN ARMY OPERATION IS LAUNCHED IN BALOCHISTAN
Emergency sessions of Muttahida Quami Movement coordination committee on the deteriorating situation in Balochistan were held at Nine Zero... More
 

IF AN ARMY OPERATION IS LAUNCHED IN BALOCHISTAN THEN THE MQM WILL QUIT THE GOVERNMENT ALTAF HUSSAIN's TV INTERVIEW ... More  
FOR COMPLETE AUDIO CLIP OF INTERVIEW CLICK HERE
 

ALTAF HUSSAIN OPPOSES BALOCHISTAN OPERATION CALLS FOR R0UND TABLE CONFERENCE ON THE SUBJECT
The founder leader of Muttahida Quami Movement has called for a round table conference of nationalist leaders from Balochistan to discuss their grievances and search for their solutions on immediate basis...More

  MMA-MQM PROTEST RALLY AGAINST US AIR STRIKES IN BAJAUR AGENCY
AND MILITARY ACTION IN BALOCHISTAN (15th January 2006)
News update 16 January 2006

DISCUSSION BETWEEN ALTAF HUSSAIN AND QAZI HUSSAIN AHMED
MQM WILL SUPPORT STEPS TAKEN FOR COUNTRY'S SAFETY AND INTEGRITY
MQM'S SUPPORT FOR MMA DEMONSTRATION IS A GOOD OMEN
In the early hours of Sunday, the MQM Founder & Leader Mr Altaf Hussain called President MMA Qazi Hussain Ahmed over the phone from London and assured him of MQM's support and participation over his protest demonstration call against the American bombardment on Bajaur Agency and the military operation in Balochistan. Qazi Hussain Ahmed informed Mr Hussain in detail of the loss of lives and property as a result of US air strikes...More

3-they are the real culprit behind all the violence in Karachi

 

you just set in PUNJAB and write the mail what you know about karachi  even i gave you thousand of prove who did what but kashif is right YOU HAVE MQM AND ALTAF BHAI FUBIA 

 

 Reply:   ISOLATION//sh

Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (2/May/2007)

JAWAB AARZ HAY

You gave some links,  will gave few links, and then people or time will judge.

 

Let see

once my boss told me one hadith "aik waqt aisa aaye gaa jub such aur jhoot kaa faisala kurnaa muskil ho jaaye gaa, keon kay dono taraf bohut acchay log hoon gay, aisay waqt may uss tarf ko jaana jahan pairwii kurnay wali aksuryut achay log hoon".
and we all can see very easily who are in the party of MQM, i have never seen religious or good charachter people in MQM.
if you know any, please let me know.

 

sorry yar but your info about MQM is nothing tum sirf hawa may bat karty ho tum nay kaha k MQM ka religious say taluk nahi hay zahir c bat hay MQM ek siyasi party hay na k mazhabi or jahan tak rahi ISLAM ki bat tu tum ALTAF BHAI ki koe bhi taqrir , biyan utha k dayk lo tum ko pata chal jayga k wo apni taqrir may QURAN O HADITH k kitny hawaly dayty hyn is k alawa yee bat record pay hay k MQM aany k bad KARACHI may shiya , suny fasadat khatam hogay is k alawa MQM ki mazhabi committee bhi hay jis may tamam maslak k logo ko numindagi di gae hay jo ksi mazhabi issue pay apna kirdar aada karti hay 

 

jahan tak rahi charachter ki bat tu bhai mj koe ek asy bandy ka nam bata do MQM may jis k charachter k bary may news may koe bat aa e ho app ki itla k lye aarz hay k MQM ek wahid party hay jis k taqriban sabhi log high educated hyn or mashry may apna ek muqam rakty hyn tumhari yee bat par k tu mj ko tum say ab hamdardi hony lagi hay kiyon k tum sirf hawa may tair chala rhy ho tum ko tu kuch bhi nahi pata mny socha tha tum ek achy pry likhy samajdar larky hogay jo sachaye ko samj k apny dil o dimag say faysla kary ga but yar sorry to say tum sirf wahi bat karhy jo panjab may rhyny wala ek jahil banda bhi kar sakta hay MQM k bary may kiyon k jo ghalat fhymiya panjab may MQM k khilaf payda ki gae wo tamam logo k dimag may rach bass gae chalo aam logo ka tu samaj may aata hay k un k pass itny wasail nahi k wo sach jany un ko jo bataya gaya un ho nay man kiya but tum jsy pary liky larky tu haqiqat samj sakty hyn na brother phir bhi tum asi baty karhy ho   

 

 

 

and for me it doesnt matter who killed Hakeem Saeed, by saying doesnt matter, i dont mean that i dont regret on his death, i mean the killer. either it is nawaz or Altaf or bibi, who ever did is the biggest enemy of Pakistan.
regarding MQM please agai read following articles.

http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forum.asp?PageNo=1&GroupID=1&ArticleID=734

http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forum.asp?PageNo=1&GroupID=1&ArticleID=729

 

 

i saw above attachment but i didn't get any prove so this is rubish please give me links with prove

 

Now back to your topic Isolation:

in manshoor or documents spreading in public no party can be judged. as ofcourse in those documents no one will say to kill some one or spread the terrorism.

so in own papers every party is best.

the theory of Isolation is very good and true as well, but is it true with the inclusion of muhajir in it, i doubt, why as newton said "every action has reaction so do we", now part of it is true and some part is doubtful.

 

which one DOUBTFUL pls advise me ....

 

Leader left the cuntry in the very best iterest of country, but why he left his soldiers for death, why he ddnt think of Soccratees, who believed "Death can come at any place, but any place cant be my motherland", he drank the poison for truth.

 

Dost may is bat ka jawab ek bhot hi aasan misal say donga : ek bap das bachy payda kar sakta hay magar 10 bachy mil k ek bap nahi payda kar sakty same theory Leader ship k lye bhi apply hoti hay jis mulk may waziry aazam k bhai ko jali police mukably may mar diya jata hay tu ALTAF BHAI ki zindagi ki kiya zamanat hay wo tu hamari tumhari tarha ek aam insan hyn un k pass to govt koe choti see poste bhi nahi hay or hum us k lye apni jany khoshi say qurban karny ko tayar hyn " HUM KO MANZIL NAHI RHYNUMA CHAYE " JANA CHATY HO KIYON ? B COZ JIN KA QUAID ALTAF BHAI JAYSA HOTA HAY MANZILY UN KA QADAM KHOD CHOMTI HYN.

 

Tumhari malomat k lye batana chata hon ALTAF BHAI pory dil jan say pakistan aana chaty hyn but aawam ki janib say is k ijazat nahi di jati kiyon k hum mar sakty hyn but QUAID ko kuch ho ALLAH NA KARY ye bardasht nahi kar sakty tum agr kabhi BHAI ki taqrir suno tu son lyna k har taqrir may wo pakistan aany ki ijazat talab karty hyn public say.

 

this threat which is written in your article "kissi baray nuqsaan ki zimmay daar hakumat ho gee", can u explain, what he meant by this.

 

yee article jis waqat likha gaya tha us waqat MQM k uper zulm ki intiha kar di gae thi har roz MQM k char say panch karkun jali police mukably may shahid kiye jarhy thy aawam may gham o ghusa barta jarha tha BHAI ko dar tha k kahin aawam jazbat may aa k koe bara ikdam na utha dayn wo musalsal sabar ki talqin karhy thy but sat may un ho nay nay govt ko batana zarori samja k halat is qadar kharab mat karo k aawam mri bat soony say bhi inkar kar day

 

you placed many pics of those MQM activist who killed by army or MQM(H), but you didnt include the pics or news of those who killed by MQM, or there is no one killed by MQM.

 

i don't have . do u have ? i think you have basis of that you are asking me i request please send me that pic i want see.

 

"Auraat ki imamat may numaaz-e-janaza", un-islamic act like this only MQM can do, and this is the main reason due to which i am against MQM.

 

Auraat ko namazy janaza parhaty howa daykh kar app nay MQM k uper fatwa jari kardiya kiya yee jany ki app nay taqlif  bhi gawara ki k asa kiyon howa kiya waja thi k ek aurat ko namazy janaza parhana para or aurtu ko hi Qabristan layjana parha nomi maa bhany sub ki hoti hyn or sub ko un ki izat utni hi piyari hoti hay jitni tum ko ya mj apni maa bhyno ki ksi ko gawara nahi hota k us k maa bhyny rod pay aayn janty ho aaysa kiyon howa tha porany waqtu may ek SUWAR waziry dakla howa karta tha KUTA NASEER ULO BABAR us nay yee ilan karwaya tha k jo bhi larka is janazy may nazar aa a us ko pakar k jali mokably may khatam kar dyna un waqtu may jo halat karachi k thy wo wahi log janty hyn jin pay guzri tum jsy log sirf door bhyt k baty hi kar sakty ho or fatwy day sakty ho kabhi ksi k dard k apny uper rak k socho tum ko sub sahi nazar aa a ga mry bhai

 

will you tell all of us, why the name of party changed from muhajir Qaumi moment to mutaida Qaumi moment.

 

as you know yee thyriq Muhajiro k uper hony waly zulm or nainsafio k khilaf shor ki gae jub hum MQM ko Muhjairo ki mukaml himayat hasil hoe or us nay un k paryshanio ko taklifo isamblio may utahya tu us k bat say MQM ko pakistan k muktalif ilako say khatot milna shoro howay k app logo ka nazarya itna acha hay magar us ko sirf Muhajiro k lye mhydod kar diya hay kiya baqi pakistano ki tarf app log ki koe zimydai nahi nikalti is qisam k khatot k bad faysla kiya gaya k MQM k daiyra barha k pory mulk may phyla diya jay or ab tama pakistanio k haqoq ki bat ki jay or lafz muhajir ko bhola k pakistan ki bat ki jay us k bad bhai ki taraf say ilan kiya gaya k aj say hum new sindhi hongay an k muhajir jis ko tamam logo nay qabol kar lya part k undar

 

well kiya tum mj ko batana pasnd karo gay tum ko kiya taqliF hay MUTAIDA nam say ? darty hogay na MQM k ab MQM pory pakistan may siyasi shaor ujagar kar say gi tu tum jaysi JAGIDARANA soch rakny waly logo ka kiya hoga.

 

and yes you was right Altaf bhai always asked his activist to remain calm, but accidently every time he asked for calmness, the murders and reaction took place.

 

if Altaf bhai dont have grip on party then why dont he leave the leader ship.

 

funny yar agr tumhari thori bhot nazar bhi pakistan ki siyasi party pay ho tu tum kabhi asi bat na karty kiyon k yee bat tu pory pakistan k siyasi leader manty hyn k as leader jo grip ALTAF BHAI ki apni karkono pay hay us ki misal nahi milti jis ka barmala ilan ek zamany may app k nawaz nay bhi kiya hay mny jis waqat ki bat ki us waqat halat intihai kharab thy rabtu ka faqdan tha MQM k tamam QIYADAT or KAKON under ground thy har taraf police waly jalado ki tarha MQM k karkono ko dhond rhy thy k kahin mil jayn tu un ko mar k apni piyas bhojayn may aj tum ko police ki barbiyat k mazid sabot farham karon ga us waqat MQM ka kam buzurg karkon or khawatino nay sambhala howa tha un k sat jo salok kiya gaya us ka sabot bhi app ko pash karon ga  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

( NOMI BHAI KUCH KHYNA PASAND KARNY GAY IS PIC K BARY MAY )

 

 

 

 

 

 

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tha links i have given above have details of MQM crimes, now the audiance or time will judge it self.

 

tum nay sirf wo baty likhi hyn jis tum ko batay gayin hyn jin ka haqiqat say koe taluk nahi hay nomi bhai

 

 

 Reply:   you are totally talking in neg

Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)

you can think what you want to, but on the basis of your thinking only you can't judge others

Now i will give you my reply point by point

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If you are giving suggestion to MQM to�call themselves as Pakistani instead of Muhajir, then what does it mean�Punajbi, Balochi, Pakhtoon, Saraieki....what does it mean buddy....????

�i used these word because you liked it that way, i hate myyelf to use these words and i dont want any Pakistani to call any other Pakistani that way, and secondly MQM has started calling themselves party for all in other provinces but in Sindh they are calling themselves in old maner.

I m not mixing anything here...this is a fact that 90% Urdu Speaking Population support MQM & will support in future too...InshahAllah....b/c now my thinking has been changed that MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people in our country Pakistan. and this thinking will developled to other people tooo....InshahAllah.

i am not agree with you that 90% support MQM, there could be 50% supporters and many of them suppot them because of kalshankov as well. and this is the hatred which has been injected in people that MQM is the only party for migrated people. by saying this you are justifying the existance of the parties on the basis of colour/ language/ origin, which is not good. as like this Pakistan cant go towards unity. all parties based on these criterias should be banned.�

Karachi/Hyderabad/Sukkar/Mirpur Khas�is the living place of 90% migrated people. And MQM is originated in Karachi and Karachi people made Maie Kolaci to Karachi...Migrated people are very thankfull to Allah SubhabuTala and people of Sindh too, they gave their land to us for living and we made Sindh as a developed province of Pakistan. We have no harsh feeling with any Sindhi speaking people and also they do not have any harsh feelings with us. If you do not belive you can come to Sindh and then check the reality...only Feudal people dislike us b/c we are against feudalism... and we hate feudal in any�respect..in terms of Mullahism too...feudal divide Sindh in to Rural and Urban not for migrated people development and nor for innocent Sindhi speaking people development...they divide Sindh in to Urban and Rural for the the dimination of feudal people in the Rural areas of Sindh....thats why the people of Sindh are poor....and the same thing in Punjab too. NWFP and Balochistan tooo...innocent people are poor......why???? b/c of MQM hatered??????? or MQM was there....why buddy buddy....???????

what progress MQM has given to peopl in last 25 years, if MQM activist are living good standered then it is coz of loot maaar, not coz of system change. we need good leaders to change the fate of Pakistani not looters like what we have in whole nation assembly at the moment.

MQM means 50% Sindh population. MQM love each and every Pakistanies tooo...People of Karachi loves each and every Pakistanis tooo...but people of Karachi will not bow down their heads�infront of�any feudal....Hum Sirf�Allah Kay Hazoor Jhukhtay Hain.....

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People of Karachi are nothing for me, for me Pakistani living in karachi matters only no one tried to force them and no one should.

Hum Na�Ksi Sobay Ki, Na�Ksi Shehar Ki Superioty Qabool Karaygain...Hamaray Nazdeek Sab Aik Jaisay Hain Sab Aik Barabar Hain Chahye�Wo Koi Bhi�Zaban Bolay...Chahye Wo Kahi Say Bhi Ho.....Laikin Taqwa aur Pakistan say Mohabbat Lazmi Hay....�

No one should

MQM is not like other party....other parties are using Islam for their purposes...MQM is not using Islam for politics....

but they are using anti-islamic symphythies for their politics.�

You people have only MQMfobia and Karachifobia in your mind and nothing else....

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now you have started miing MQM with Karachi, whats the problem with you.

but we do not care about your thinking what we want to do we will do...b/c Allah Subhanahu WaTala is with us.

Allah is with truth�only, if you are on right path then you will get his blessings if you are not then may Allah guide you.�

You are trying to give the wrong message to world�that MQM and Karachi people hate other speaking people which is incorrect and totally injustice buddy...I'm not with you...you are doing wrong...

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Mr Kashif, you are giving wog message not me, on�this site every one is raising there voice and let the audiance judge wo is right or wrong, i am not judging any thing here, neither guiding people, i put some thing, you put some thing, i didnot stop u neither i�blammed you then how you can blame me. infact at the moment more people are debting in favour of MQM then anti.

i dont understand if i am not with you then i am doing unjustice.

now you are basically saaying this thing

"joh quaid kaa ghaddar hay

woh mout kaa huqdaar hay"

 

 Reply:   We are Pakistani - We Love All

Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)

MQM means 90% Karachities i.e. Pakistanies of Karachi
If you are giving suggestion to MQM to call themselves as Pakistani instead of Muhajir, then what does it mean Punajbi, Balochi, Pakhtoon, Saraieki....what does it mean buddy....????

 

I m not mixing anything here...this is a fact that 90% Urdu Speaking Population support MQM & will support in future too...InshahAllah....b/c now my thinking has been changed that MQM is the only representative party of Migrated people in our country Pakistan. and this thinking will developled to other people tooo....InshahAllah.

 

Karachi/Hyderabad/Sukkar/Mirpur Khas is the living place of 90% migrated people. And MQM is originated in Karachi and Karachi people made Maie Kolaci to Karachi...Migrated people are very thankfull to Allah SubhabuTala and people of Sindh too, they gave their land to us for living and we made Sindh as a developed province of Pakistan. We have no harsh feeling with any Sindhi speaking people and also they do not have any harsh feelings with us. If you do not belive you can come to Sindh and then check the reality...only Feudal people dislike us b/c we are against feudalism... and we hate feudal in any respect..in terms of Mullahism too...feudal divide Sindh in to Rural and Urban not for migrated people development and nor for innocent Sindhi speaking people development...they divide Sindh in to Urban and Rural for the the dimination of feudal people in the Rural areas of Sindh....thats why the people of Sindh are poor....and the same thing in Punjab too. NWFP and Balochistan tooo...innocent people are poor......why???? b/c of MQM hatered??????? or MQM was there....why buddy buddy....???????

 

 

MQM means 50% Sindh population. MQM love each and every Pakistanies tooo...People of Karachi loves each and every Pakistanis tooo...but people of Karachi will not bow down their heads infront of any feudal....Hum Sirf Allah Kay Hazoor Jhukhtay Hain.....

Hum Na Ksi Sobay Ki, Na Ksi Shehar Ki Superioty Qabool Karaygain...Hamaray Nazdeek Sab Aik Jaisay Hain Sab Aik Barabar Hain Chahye Wo Koi Bhi Zaban Bolay...Chahye Wo Kahi Say Bhi Ho.....Laikin Taqwa aur Pakistan say Mohabbat Lazmi Hay.... 

 

 

MQM is not like other party....other parties are using Islam for their purposes...MQM is not using Islam for politics....

 

You people have only MQMfobia and Karachifobia in your mind and nothing else....

but we do not care about your thinking what we want to do we will do...b/c Allah Subhanahu WaTala is with us.

 

You are trying to give the wrong message to world that MQM and Karachi people hate other speaking people which is incorrect and totally injustice buddy...I'm not with you...you are doing wrong...

Karachi people and MQM people love each and every Pakistanies.

 

Regards,

Kashif

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Reply:   i love Pakistan, Pakistani, Pa

Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)

i love Pakistan, Pakistani, Pathan, Balochi, Punjabi,Sindhi,sirayki,Muhajir etc
If i said this (you people didn't try to justify or Cross argue the Numaaz-e-junazaz by womanÛ”
), then how it become harsh thing, when i said this till that time you people didn't cross argue this thing.
if you thing for every thing whether small or big we have right to cross the boundaries of Islam, then i dont have to say anything.

and plz plz, i am against MQM, not Muhajir.
why you people are trying to mix Muhajir and MQM, i am Muhajir (if u want to call that way), but not MQM activist.
so if i say MQM doesn't like Islam then it means that i am talking about MQM leaders.
previously in the start of 80's if Sindhi people were against Muhajir then now MQM is against them.
now MQM is against Punjabi as well.
now the problem was between Sindhi and Muhajir in the start, now it becomes between all and MQM.
and MQM always do everything in the name of Muhajir.
which i dont like at all.
if Altaf hussain really want to do politics then he should change his mind as well as he changed the name of Party.
i will like him if he instead of calling Muhajir community again and again start calling Pakistani.
i can digest his existence as a secular party but not as Lissani party.

and i didn't use any word against Karachi, then how you can say that i am after Karachi.
the wordings like this can misguide people and spread hatred. which MQM did and sorry to say, you are doing right now as well.
i love Pakistan, Pakistani, Pathan, Balochi, Punjabi,Sindhi,sirayki,Muhajir etc
 

 Reply:   لیجئے پڑھئے اپنی تلخ بات۔

Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)

you people didn't try to justify or Cross argue the Numaaz-e-junazaz by woman۔

کس نے عورتوں کی امامت نماز پڑھانے کو جائز قرار دیا ھے یا اس کو صحیح سمجھتا ھے۔؟؟؟ میں نے کہا تھا ھاں؟؟؟؟

عورتوں نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائ اس وجہ سے کہ اس وقت پنجاب رینجمٹ، پنجاب رینجرز اور پنجاب پولیس نے مہاجر لڑکوں کو باہر آنے پر گولی مار دینے کا کہا تھا، وہ شہید کر رھے تھے مہاجروں کو۔ اس وقت کسی مذہبی اور سیاسی تنظیم نے یہ خیال نہیں کیا کہ ایک مسلمان کی نماز جنازہ پڑھانی ھے صالح منافق ملاّ۔ مجبوراً ایک مظلوم اور معصوم مومن مہاجر عورت نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائی ۔ اللّلہ
رب العزت اس نماز کو قبول کرے بے شک اللّلہ بڑا غفور الرحیم ھے۔

نعمان آپ کیسے کہ سکتے ھو کہ ایم کیو ایم کے لوگ اسلام پسند نہں ھیں بڈی خوف کرو یار الللہ کا۔ تمام مہاجر، تمام ھجرت کر کے آنے والے، تمام کراچی کے لوگ مسلمان ھیں اور اللّلہ اور رسول اللّلہ صلی اللّلہ علیہ وآلیہ وسلم سے پیار کرتے ھیں ، اسلام پسند ھیں۔ غیر اسلام پسند کہ کر ھماری بے عزتی مت کرو دوست۔ سمجھے۔

آپ یہ کیسے کہ سکتے ھو کہ ایم کیو ایم نے نفرت پیدا کی۔ ؟؟؟؟

ھماری زندگی کا مقصد دین اسلام کی سر بلندی
ھم اسی لیے مسلمان اسی لیے پاکستانی


آپ کراچی کے پیچھے کیوں پڑے ھوے ھو بھائی۔
ایم کیو ایم کے بارے میں مجھے زیادہ نہیں معلوم ، عدنان بھائ اگر آپ پڑھ رھے ھو تو آپ بتاؤ نعمان بھائ کو۔

اللہ حافظ
 

 Reply:   Kashif you can think, what you

Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)

i love Islam, in short

just give me one favor, let me know which "Tulkh baat i said", did i delete the article regarding who killed Hakim Saeed, did i cross argue that, no i didn't.
if Nawaz Sharif killed him, then give him punishment , i dont mind and why should i.
i just believe in one thing, the truth.
that truth is MQM is a party of hatred and have no love for Islam.
for me only one thing mater and that is Islam.
if you people cant understand this reason, then i cant help you to understand this as well.

apart from the violent past of the MQM
i just want to tell you three basic reasons why i dont like MQM
1-they are not Islam loving party
2-they support Musharraf
3-they are the real culprit behind all the violence in Karachi.

 

 Reply:   نعمان آپ کی سوچ سے میں اگری نہیں

Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (2/May/2007)

نعمان آپ لوگوں کی تلخ باتوں سے انسان مجور ھو کر یقینن اور مزید ساتھ دے گا ایم کیو ایم کا۔
اور میں بھی اب ان ہی لوگوں کا ساتھ دونگا۔

حکیم محمد سعید کو نواز شریف نے قتل کر وایا ھے۔ اس سچ کو کیوں نہیں تسلیم کر رھے ھیں لوگ۔

کیوں اس کا ساتھ دے رھے ھیں کیوں؟؟؟

میں اب تک ایم کیو ایم کا نہیں تھا لیکن اب ساری ھمدردیاں ایم کیو ایم کے ساتھ ھیں۔

عورتوں نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائ اس وجہ سے کہ اس وقت پنجاب رینجمٹ، پنجاب رینجرز اور پنجاب پولیس نے مہاجر
لڑکوں کو باہر آنے پر گولی مار دینے کا کہا تھا، وہ شہید کر رھے تھے مہاجروں کو۔ اس وقت کسی مذہبی اور سیاسی تنظیم نے یہ خیال نہیں کیا کہ ایک مسلمان کی نماز جنازہ پڑھانی ھے صالح منافق ملاّ۔ مجبوراً ایک مظلوم اور معصوم مومن مہاجر عورت نے نماز جنازہ پڑھائی ۔ اللّلہ
رب العزت اس نماز کو قبول کرے بے شک اللّلہ بڑا غفور الرحیم ھے۔

عدنان بہائی اگر آپ پڑھ رھے ھو یہ تو میں آپ کو بتاتا چلوں کے میرا ننھیال پنجاب زندہ دلانے میں رھتے ھیں گزشتہ ساٹھ سالوں سے اور میرے ماموں، کزن وغیرہ وغیرہ پنجاب رینجمٹ میں ھی ھیں اور میں صرف ان لوگوں کی وجہ سے آج تک ایم کیو ایم کو سپورٹ نہیں کیا تھا۔
حلانکہ میرے ددھیال کراچی کے کافی سارے لوگ ایم کیو ایم کو سپورٹ کرتے ھیں ھمیں چھوڑ کر ۔ لیکن مجھے لگ رھا ھے کہ میں بھی اب ڈنکے کی چوٹ پر ایم کیو ایم کو ھی سپورٹ کروں۔ کیونکہ ھر بندے کو اپنی قبر میں جانا ھے اپنے نام اعمال کے ساتھ اب مجھے یہ بات سمجھ آگئی ھے۔
 

 Reply:   Kashif, truth is truth, whethe

Replied by(Noman) Replied on (2/May/2007)

those sites could be Indian, but every thing is stated there is with reference of dates and events so its difficul to deny them. if you really want to deny them then o date by date and event
this link is still much more neutral then MQM site or KarachiPage. as both sites were propagating just in one direction.
why karachiPage dont have any proof against MQM or PPP. i dont judge people or site based upon their origin, i judge or try to judge every thing on merit of the material..
and please also inform me what right doings Altaf bhai is doing?
you people didn't try to justify or Cross argue the Numaaz-e-junazaz by woman. and the overall character of MQM activist.
truth will remain truth whether we accept it or not, it stands for both f us
 

 Reply:   نعمان آپ نے جو لینک دی ھیں وہ انڈ

Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (1/May/2007)

نعمان بہائی آپ نے جو لینک دی ھیں وہ انڈیا کی ھیں۔ اور وہ ویب سائیٹ انڈیا سے ٓاپریٹ ھوتی ھے۔ لہزا اس لینک پر اعتبار نہیں کیا جا سکتا۔ اور لوگوں کو انڈیا کی باتوں پر اعتبار نہیں کرنا چاھئے۔ وہ تو ھر پاکستانی کو دھشت گرد کہتے ھیں۔


الطاف حسین نے کہا کہ کسی بڑے نقصان کی زم دار حکومت ھو گی۔ یہ کوئی غلط بات نہیں ھے اسی طرح کی بات نواز بدبودار، بی بی، فضل نے بہی کہی ھیں کہ ملک
ٹوٹنے کی ذم داری حکومت پر ھو گی۔


عدنان بھائی آپ نے میری آنکھیں کھول دی ھیں۔ میں الطاف حسین کی اب مخالفت صحیح کام پر نہیں کرونگا۔ میں اللّلہ رب العزت سے معافی مانگتا ھوں کے مجھے معاف کر دے میں نے قائد حق پرست کو کافی برا کہا تھا۔ اللّلہ مجھے معا ف کرے آمین۔
 

 Reply:   My answer to isolation.script

Replied by(Noman) Replied on (1/May/2007)

I really appreciate your efforts, and really brother if MQM got all activist like you then it can flourish.but my first choice will be only that party which loves and endorse Islam.
y ou gave some links,  will gave few links, and then people or time will judge.
once my boss told me one hadith "aik waqt aisa aaye gaa jub such aur jhoot kaa faisala kurnaa muskil ho jaaye gaa, keon kay dono taraf bohut acchay log hoon gay, aisay waqt may uss tarf ko jaana jahan pairwii kurnay wali aksuryut achay log hoon".
and we all can see very easily who are in the party of MQM, i have never seen religious or good charachter people in MQM.
if you know any, please let me know.
and for me it doesnt matter who killed Hakeem Saeed, by saying doesnt matter, i dont mean that i dont regret on his death, i mean the killer. either it is nawaz or Altaf or bibi, who ever did is the biggest enemy of Pakistan.
regarding MQM please agai read following articles.

http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forum.asp?PageNo=1&GroupID=1&ArticleID=734

http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/Why_how_what_forum.asp?PageNo=1&GroupID=1&ArticleID=729

 

Now back to your topic Isolation:

in manshoor or documents spreading in public no party can be judged. as ofcourse in those documents no one will say to kill some one or spread the terrorism.

so in own papers every party is best.

the theory of Isolation is very good and true as well, but is it true with the inclusion of muhajir in it, i doubt, why as newton said "every action has reaction so do we", now part of it is true and some part is doubtful.

Leader left the cuntry in the very best iterest of country, but why he left his soldiers for death, why he ddnt think of Soccratees, who believed "Death can come at any place, but any place cant be my motherland", he drank the poison for truth.

this threat which is written in your article "kissi baray nuqsaan ki zimmay daar hakumat ho gee", can u explain, what he meant by this.

 

you placed many pics of those MQM activist who killed by army or MQM(H), but you didnt include the pics or news of those who killed by MQM, or there is no one killed by MQM.

 

"Auraat ki imamat may numaaz-e-janaza", un-islamic act like this only MQM can do, and this is the main reason due to which i am against MQM.

 

will you tell all of us, why the name of party changed from muhajir Qaumi moment to mutaida Qaumi moment.

 

and yes you was right Altaf bhai always asked his activist to remain calm, but accidently every time he asked for calmness, the murders and reaction took place.

if Altaf bhai dont have grip on party then why dont he leave the leader ship.

 

tha links i have given above have details of MQM crimes, now the audiance or time will judge it self.

 

 

 

 Reply:   hussnain//shy

Replied by(moonraza) Replied on (1/May/2007)

dear all ,

 

i will reply for "ISOLATION" soon

 

thanks,

Husssnain