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"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity".
(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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WASHINGTON - President Bush said Wednesday if he had firm
intelligence that Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan, he would issue
the order to go into that country after the al-Qaida leader.

His statement drew an immediate response from Pakistani President
Pervez Musharraf, who said Pakistan would handle such a situation
itself. Musharraf is extremely sensitive about possible foreign
military intervention inside his borders.

The two leaders are to meet at the White House on Friday.

Asked in an interview with CNN whether he would issue an order to go
into Pakistan to kill or capture bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-
Zawahri, Bush replied: "Absolutely. "

He added: "We would take the action necessary to bring them to
justice."

When Bush's remarks were put to Musharraf at a news conference at
the United Nations, the Pakistani leader replied: "We wouldn't like
to allow that. We'd like to do that ourselves."

An ally in the war on terror
Bush considers Musharraf a valuable ally in fighting terrorism, but
the Pakistani leader faces strong anti-American sentiment at home.

He is also disputing U.S. and Afghan government statements that he
is not doing enough to crack down on militants operating in the
rugged border area.

Bush is intent on portraying his administration and party as tough
on terrorism before the November election, in which his Republican
Party is fighting to keep control of Congress.

Bush noted that al-Qaida has made attempts on the Pakistani leader's
life and said: "I view President Musharraf as somebody who would
like to bring al-Qaida to justice."

Bin Laden and Zawahri have eluded a U.S. manhunt over the five years
since the Sept. 11 attacks. They are believed to be hiding in the
border region between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

"There's no question there is a kind of a hostile territory in the
remote regions of Pakistan that makes it easier for somebody to
hide," Bush said. "But we're on the hunt. We'll get him."

Last week, Bush dismissed as an "urban myth" that his administration
was not focused on hunting for bin Laden.

The Washington Post reported that the search for the al-Qaida leader
had gone "stone cold, and Democrats say the Iraq war had shifted
resources away from trying to find bin Laden.
 Reply:   Mush could only find a refuge
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (24/Sep/2006)
Mush could only find a refuge in his forthcoming book to save the embarrassment! !! ()
mukeshvarma@ yahoo.com says
"Those who saw the live coverage of the press briefing after the recent “Bush-Mush” meet would not have missed on noticing the body language of Mush. His “hassled look” and complete loss of words threw the signal that “Bush-Boss” had thoroughly grilled him and tutored him into retracting his statement on “bombing black mail”.

Mush could only find a refuge in his forthcoming book to save the embarrassment! !! "

lalhgehi@yahoo.com says
" SACHAAEE CHUP NAHIN SAKTI, BANAAWAT KE USOOLOON SE
KHUSHBOO AA NAHIN SAKTI, KABHI, KAAGAZ KE PHOOLOON SE "

 
 Reply:   Like every other situation, Mu
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (24/Sep/2006)
Again he is trying to stay back from the words he has said
Again he is trying to stay back from the words he has said. this time he used new tool instead of direct denyal of his words, as he did in rape case comments and many other occasions, he used his book. why?
why he was afraid of staying firm on his words, why if he was so afraid then why he said those words which he can't defend.
 
 Reply:   Musharraf on Bomb Threat: Wait
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (24/Sep/2006)
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf is a seasoned military officer who led troops to battle, trained commandos, seized control of his country and escaped three assassination attempts. But h
The Pakistani president dodges questions about claims of U.S. coercion after the 9/11 attacks.
By Molly Hennessy-Fiske
Times Staff Writer

September 23, 2006

WASHINGTON — Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf is a seasoned military officer who led troops to battle, trained commandos, seized control of his country and escaped three assassination attempts. But he said he was powerless to answer reporters' key question Friday during a visit to the White House — because he was at the mercy of his publisher.

Musharraf cited a book contract as he dodged a question about a purported Bush administration threat to bomb his country "back to the Stone Age" if it did not cooperate with the U.S. after the Sept. 11 attacks. He told a packed East Room audience that he was "honor bound" by his publisher not to answer until it releases the book, "In The Line of Fire: A Memoir" on Monday, he said.

"In other words," President Bush quipped, "buy the book is what he's saying."

Musharraf did not sign a confidentiality agreement with publisher Free Press, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, but he promised not to speak about its contents until Monday, spokeswoman Carisa Hays said.

The publisher arranged an exclusive interview for Musharraf with "60 Minutes," set to air Sunday night, in which he discusses threats made by a senior Bush administration official to bomb Pakistan if it did not cooperate after the terrorist attacks. Excerpts of the interview were made public Thursday.

The publisher's website said Musharraf also has interviews scheduled with NPR, NBC's "Today" show and "Meet the Press," and Comedy Central's "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart."

Musharraf's literary agent, Chris Calhoun, said the president was standing on principle.

"He's appreciative of the job the publisher has done. He's keeping his word," Calhoun said.

Publishing industry leaders disagreed.

Though it is common for high-profile authors, including world leaders such as former Prime Ministers Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir, to reserve comment on books they write while in office, they rarely stay mum on issues of national security to protect their publicity, said Sara Nelson, editor of Publishers Weekly.

"If the responsibility of a leader is to inform his people about what's going on, and he says 'I can't because I have a book coming out,' that's weird," Nelson said.

"If George Bush said he couldn't comment on 9/11 because he had a contract with Simon & Schuster, all hell would break loose," she said.

Nelson said the episode probably would boost Musharraf's book sales next week, but would garner little lasting attention. As of Friday evening, Musharraf's 368-page memoir was ranked No. 122 in pre-release sales at Amazon.com.

Peter Osnos, founder and editor-at-large of PublicAffairs Books in New York, called Musharraf's book pitch "bizarre."

"What are we protecting here? The book has been written and shipped. He has already been interviewed. This is a curious gambit," Osnos said.

The honor code among authors is flexible, Osnos said, and Musharraf's "honor bound" comment was all showmanship, "for fun and profit rather than out of principle."

Publishers have speculated that Musharraf received a six-figure contract for the book in February 2005, and Nelson of Publishers Weekly said he probably was earning much more.

"They've orchestrated this very well," Nelson said. "It's going to get everybody — as we are now — talking about the ethics of it."

 
 Reply:   The DEVIL Denies Official Thre
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (23/Sep/2006)
The White House said Friday it was not U.S. policy to threaten Pakistan after the Sept. 11 attacks, challenging an accusation by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf that Washington warned i



GB’s Famous Quote




“Either You Are With Us OR Against Us”




“If You Are WITH Us We Will Turn a BLIND EYE to
All Your Human Rights Abuses, Corruption,
Nepotism, Amassing of WMDs etc. But If You Are
AGAINST Us We Will Work to Bring You DOWN By
HOOK or By CROOK Even Though You May Be a Just
Ruler” - AB




US Denies Official Threatened Pakistan  in 2001



 




Rift comes as Bush, Musharraf meet at White House



 




MSNBC News Services




Updated: 10:23 a.m. ET Sept. 22, 2006



 



WASHINGTON - The White House said Friday it
was not U.S. policy to threaten Pakistan after
the Sept. 11 attacks, challenging an accusation
by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf that
Washington warned it would bomb his country
“back to the Stone Age” if it did not cooperate.


 



The statement came as Bush and Musharraf met at
the White House to discuss cooperation in the
war on terrorism and efforts to prevent a
resurgence of the Taliban. They were to hold a
news conference at 10:10 a.m. ET.



White House spokesman Tony Snow said Richard
Armitage, who was deputy secretary of state at
the time, had denied warning Musharraf that the
United States would bomb his country if it did
not cooperate with the U.S. campaign against the
Taliban in Afghanistan.



Musharraf, in an interview with CBS News’
magazine show “60 Minutes,” to air on Sunday,
said that after the Sept. 11 attacks, Armitage
had told Pakistan’s intelligence director,


“’Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go
back to the Stone Age.’”



Snow said he did not know what Musharraf had
been told but that U.S. policy was to seek
Musharraf’s cooperation. “U.S. policy was not to
issue bombing threats. U.S. policy was to say to
President Musharraf: ’We need you to make a
choice,’” Snow said. As for what Armitage said
to the Pakistanis: “I don’t know,” Snow said.
“This could have been a classic failure to
communicate. I just don’t know.”



Armitage told CNN on Thursday that he never
threatened to bomb Pakistan, wouldn’t say such a
thing and didn’t have the authority to do it.
Armitage said he did have a tough message for
Pakistan, saying the Muslim nation was either
“with us or against us,” according to CNN.
Armitage said he didn’t know how his message was
recounted so differently to Musharraf. the
Pakistani leader, whose remarks were distributed
to the media by CBS, said he felt insulted.




“I think it was a very rude remark,” he told
reporter Steve Kroft. But Musharraf said he
reacted responsibly. “One has to think and take
actions in the interests of the nation and that
is what I did,”

he said.




Relations with the Taliban



Before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Pakistan was
one of the only countries in the world to
maintain relations with the Taliban, which was
harboring al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, and
many Pakistanis were sympathetic with the
neighboring Islamic state. But within days of
the attacks Musharraf cut his government’s ties
to the Taliban regime and cooperated with U.S.
efforts to track and capture al-Qaida and
Taliban forces that sought refuge in Pakistan.



The official 9/11 commission report on the
attacks and their aftermath, based largely on
government documents, said U.S. national
security officials focused immediately on
securing Pakistani cooperation as they planned a
response.




Documents showed Armitage met the Pakistani
ambassador and the visiting head of Pakistan’s
military intelligence service in Washington on
Sept. 13 and asked Pakistan to take seven steps.


 




They included ending logistical support for bin
Laden and giving the United States blanket
overflight and landing rights for military and
intelligence flights.


 




The report did not discuss any threat the United
States may have made, but it said Musharraf
agreed to all seven U.S. requests the same day.


 



In an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews,
former Secretary of State Colin Powell said that
“we gave them a list of things we wanted
Pakistan to do, which essentially required
Pakistan to completely reverse its policy with
respect to the Taliban.” Musharraf “saw the
wisdom in the decision he took,” Powell said.


 




'Ludicrous' Demands



Musharraf said in the CBS interview he was irked
by U.S. demands that Pakistan turn over its
border posts and bases for the U.S. military to
use.


 



He said some demands were “ludicrous,” including
one insisting he suppress domestic _expression
of support for terrorism against the United
States. “If somebody’s expressing views, we
cannot curb the _expression of views,” Musharraf
said.


 



With Taliban fighters still fighting in
Afghanistan and statements by the Afghan
government that Pakistan must do more to crack
down on militants in its rugged border area, the
issue is again a sensitive one between Islamabad
and Washington.


 




Musharraf reacted with displeasure to comments
by Bush on Wednesday that if he had firm
intelligence bin Laden was in Pakistan, he would
issue the order to go into that country. “We
wouldn’t like to allow that. We’d like to do
that ourselves,” Musharraf told a news
conference.


 


Musharraf’s comments came days ahead of the publication by New York-based Free Press of his memoir “In the Line of Fire.” Advance copies of the memoir have not been released to the media for review before its Sept. 25 publication.

 
 Reply:   Dhamki tu Lord Mt Baten ne Qua
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (23/Sep/2006)
Dhamki tu Lord Mt Baten ne Quaide Azam ko bhi di thi...agar fala kam na kya tu Pakistan ke sath itna bura hoga jo koi sooch bhi nahi sakta...
Bhai sahib

Dhamki tu Gandhi ko bhi di thi Churchal ne...Taje bartanya se bewafai ki tu...

Dhamki tu Lord Mt Baten ne Quaide Azam ko bhi di thi...agar fala kam na kya tu Pakistan ke sath itna bura hoga jo koi sooch bhi nahi sakta...

Dhamki tu Bhutto ko bhi di thi Hunnry Casinjer ne...agar Atomic program shoro kya tu

Dhamki tu Bill Clinton ne bhi di thi Nawaz Sharif ko...agar Dhamaky kye tu...

Agar Mushrraf ko mili to koi naya nahi hoa tha....

Faraq sirf itna he ke...Qaumi leaders jo awam ki taqat se aate he...ko di jane wali dhamki kabhi kargar... aur Amero ko di jane wali dhamki kabhi nakam nahi hoti....

 
 Reply:   Dear Amir whatelse you could e
Replied by(Ghost) Replied on (23/Sep/2006)
syedsajid_aziz@yahoo.com
Dear Amir whatelse you could expect from a person like
Musharraf who is merely a 'puppet' of his masters in
USA. It was a height of cawardice that a person like
him surrendered despite having nuclear power on a
"geedar-bhabki" of Bush. The real leaders in this
world are Ahmedinejad, Hasan Nasrullah, Ismail Hanieh
or Hugo Shavez.

 
 Reply:   Agar Musharraf America ko Ankh
Replied by(Ghost) Replied on (23/Sep/2006)
dukejib@yahoo.com
Agar Musharraf America ko Ankh Dekhata to saab se pehlay Pakistan sey Bhagnay walay woh loog hotay jo aaj musharaf ko bura keh rahey hain.

agar aap ko 9/11 yaad hu , during that time, all the flights towards america were jam packed ( Karachi Airport ) peoples were even going towards dubai, srilanka, japan and other countries just to get a flight for America. ( A common believe is that pakistanis came back from america after 9/11 , most of them are those , who were forced to leave america )

My Friend, It is we who have weaken the Pakistan , agar hum apnay aap ko sahi kar leean , hamara Qibla America Na hu, tu ham bhi America ko Annkh nikal kar dekh saktay hain.

I have been to places out of Pakistan, but came back , because There is no place like Home, and Pakistan is our Home.

Agar aap ko meri baat se ittefaq nahin hai, tu apney is paas zaroor jhankiey ga, jo log musharaf ko ya america ko bura kehtay hain, un key apnay rishtay dar, betiyan, betay, bhai, baap ya tu america main hain, ya govt se related hain, ya phir america kooch karney walay hain.

Kabhi American Embassy ke line dekhi hai?

Agar nahin dekhi tu dekh lo, Musharaf ki Buzdilli samjh aa jaye ge.

All of the prominent Politicans & Religious Leaders of Pakistan have atleast one home abroad in America/UK or have a very close realtion living in America ( mostly Son ) & are very keen in spending their summer vacations in America.
Most of them have completed their higher education from America or UK.
Most of the burecrauts of Pakistan have the same likings for America.

Majiority of Pakistani's are willing to do everything , no matter right/wrong just to get a American Visa .

Musharraf's son is in USA
Qazi Hussain ahmed's son is in USA
Nawaz sharif is in USA
Altaf Hussain is in LONDON
Benazir is in USA
Bugti's son is in USA
Usama bin Ladens brother is in USA
Shaukat Aziz's Family is in USA

And Numerous Others too

Jin aankhon main sharam or ghairat ka panni khatam ho jata hai, woh aankhen kisi ke samnay utthney ke qabil nahin.

 
 Reply:   mamirtai@yahoo. comscript src
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (22/Sep/2006)
ye wo hee pervez mushraf he jo apne logon k liay to aankhen nikal nikal kar baat karta
ye wo hee pervez mushraf he jo apne logon k liay to aankhen nikal nikal kar baat karta he or amrica ki ek dhamki per geedarr ban gaya afsos sad afsos issko apni country ka khial naheen tha lekin apni gov: bachane k liay amrica k sath apne muslman bhaion per golian chalwain or bambarment karwai kitna buzdil nikla or khud ko compere karta he zulifqar ali bhutto k sath..!!!!!! !!!!!

 
 Reply:   U.S. threatened to bomb Pakist
Replied by(Ghost) Replied on (22/Sep/2006)
President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan said that after the September 11 attacks the United States threatened to bomb his country if it did not cooperate with America's campaign against the
NEW YORK (Reuters) - President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan said
that after the September 11 attacks the United States threatened to
bomb his country if it did not cooperate with America's campaign
against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Musharraf, in an interview with CBS news magazine show "60 Minutes"
that will air Sunday, said the threat came from Deputy Secretary of
State Richard Armitage and was given to Musharraf's intelligence
director.

"The intelligence director told me that (Armitage) said, 'Be
prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age,"'
Musharraf said. "I think it was a very rude remark."

Armitage was not immediately available to comment, and U.S. State
Department spokesman Tom Casey declined comment on the remarks by
Musharraf, who is now in Washington and is due to meet
President George Bush in the White House on Friday.

The Pakistani leader, whose remarks were distributed to the media by
CBS, said he reacted to the threat in a responsible way. "One has to
think and take actions in the interest of the nation, and that's
what I did," Musharraf said.

Before the Sept 11, 2001 attacks, Pakistan was one of the only
countries in the world to maintain relations with the Taliban, which
was harboring al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, and many
Pakistanis were sympathetic with the neighboring Islamic state.

But within days of the attacks Musharraf cut his government's ties
to the Taliban regime and cooperated with U.S. efforts to track and
capture Al-Qaeda and Taliban forces that sought refuge in Pakistan.

The official 9/11 Commission report on the attacks and their
aftermath, based largely on government documents, said U.S. national
security officials focused immediately on securing Pakistani
cooperation as they planned a response.

Documents showed Armitage met the Pakistani ambassador and the
visiting head of Pakistan's military intelligence service in
Washington on September 13 and asked Pakistan to take seven steps.

SUPPORT FOR BIN LADEN

They included ending logistical support for bin Laden and giving the
United States blanket overflight and landing rights for military and
intelligence flights.

The report did not discuss any threat the United States may have
made, but it said Musharraf agreed to all seven U.S. requests the
same day.

Musharraf said in the CBS interview he was irked by U.S. demands
that Pakistan turn over its border posts and bases for the U.S.
military to use.

He said some demands were "ludicrous," including one insisting he
suppress domestic _expression of support for terrorism against the
United States. "If somebody's expressing views, we cannot curb the
_expression of views," Musharraf said.

With Taliban fighters still fighting in Afghanistan and statements
by the Afghan government that Pakistan must do more to crack down on
militants in its rugged border area, the issue is again a sensitive
one between Islamabad and Washington.

Musharraf reacted with displeasure to comments by Bush on Wednesday
that if he had firm intelligence bin Laden was in Pakistan, he would
issue the order to go into that country.

"We wouldn't like to allow that. We'd like to do that ourselves,"
Musharraf told a news conference.

In the CBS interview, Musharraf also spoke about the embarrassment
he felt when informed by then-CIA Director George Tenet at the
United Nations in 2003 that Pakistani nuclear weapon technology had
been passed to Iran and North Korea.

"It was the most embarrassing moment," Musharraf said, denying that
anyone in the government or military necessarily knew of the
transport of a total amount of more than 18 tons of secret material
from Pakistan's nuclear facilities.

Musharraf's comments were days ahead of the publication by New York-
based Free Press of his memoir "In the Line of Fire." Advance copies
of the memoir have not been released to the media for review before its September 25 publication.
 
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