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Musharraf's controversial memoir released
Pakistan leader spells out allegations of U.S. intimidation after 9/11

Pakistan’s president says in his memoir released Monday that he had no choice after the Sept. 11 attacks but to switch from supporting the Taliban to backing the U.S.-led war on terror groups or face an American “onslaught.”
Gen. Pervez Musharraf, in his book “In The Line of Fire,” also criticizes the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, saying it has made the world “more dangerous.”

Musharraf, who is on a tour of the U.S., is scheduled to meet Wednesday with President Bush and Afghan President Hamid Karzai to seek ways to bridge their disagreements on the fight against Islamic militants, particularly along the Afghan-Pakistani frontier.

Unusual in publishing a memoir while still in power, Musharraf says Pakistan, the United States and Saudi Arabia created an extremist “monster” by supporting Islamic groups fighting the Soviet Union’s 1979-89 occupation of Afghanistan.

“We had assisted in the rise of the Taliban after the Soviet Union withdrew from Afghanistan, which was then callously abandoned by the United States,” Musharraf says.

It was within this vacuum that Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terror network strengthened, thanks to the support of the Taliban’s leader, Mullah Omar, he adds.

Pakistan saw the Taliban as a means to end years of chaos in Afghanistan, which peaked during the 1992-96 civil war, says Musharraf, who came to power in a 1999 coup. He says Islamabad also saw the Taliban as a counter to Afghanistan’s Northern Alliance, which favored Pakistan’s rival, India.

U.S. like 'wounded bear'
But after the Sept. 11 attacks, Musharraf says, he realized continuing to support the Taliban and have ties with militant groups would set Pakistan on a collision course with Washington.

“America was sure to react violently, like a wounded bear,” Musharraf writes. “If the perpetrator turned out to be al-Qaida, then that wounded bear would come charging straight toward us.”

The day after the suicide plane attacks, Musharraf says, Secretary of State Colin Powell telephoned with an ultimatum: “You are either with us or against us.”

The next day, he says, Powell’s then deputy, Richard Armitage, telephoned the chief of Pakistan’s top spy agency, the Directorate of Inter Services Intelligence, with an even sterner warning.

“In what has to be the most undiplomatic statement ever made, Armitage ... told the director general not only that we had to decide whether we were with America or with the terrorists, but that if we chose the terrorists, then we should be prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age,” Musharraf writes.

Armitage last week denied threatening to bomb Pakistan, but acknowledged delivering a stern warning.

Musharraf says he weighed Pakistan’s options, including the possibility of militarily countering any U.S. actions.

“I war-gamed the United States as an adversary,” he writes, but concluded Pakistan’s military, economic and social weaknesses made it impossible to confront America.

Eyeing India
He also worried about nuclear-armed India, with which Pakistan has fought three wars since their 1947 independence from Britain, including two over the disputed Himalayan region of now divided Kashmir.

“The Indians might have been tempted to undertake a limited offensive there (Kashmir); or more likely they would work with the United States and the United Nations to turn the present situation into a permanent status quo,” Musharraf writes. “The United States would certainly have obliged.”

He adds: “It is no secret that the United States has never been comfortable with a Muslim country acquiring nuclear weapons and the Americans undoubtedly would have taken the opportunity of an invasion to destroy such weapons.”

Musharraf says he thus cut Pakistan’s support for the Taliban, despite a possible backlash from radical Islamic groups in his country.

“Why should we put our national interest on the line for a primitive regime that would be defeated?” he asks. “Self-interest and self-preservation were the basis of this decision.”

But Musharraf disputes Bush’s argument that the world is safer following the invasion of Iraq, saying he opposed the war because he “feared it would exacerbate extremism, as it has most certainly done. ... The world has become far more dangerous.”

Musharraf details some of the 670 arrests of al-Qaida suspects in Pakistan, including the killers of U.S. journalist Daniel Pearl.

But he also concedes al-Qaida and Taliban militants still operate in his country, while repeating his insistence that he has no knowledge of the whereabouts of top fugitives, including bin Laden and Omar.

“If I had to guess, I would assume that he (bin Laden) is moving back and forth across the Pakistan-Afghanistan border somewhere,” Musharraf writes.
 Reply:   My father was very elegant, ve
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Both my parents loved music and dancing, especially ballroom dancing. My father was very elegant, very graceful dancer
"Both my parents loved music and dancing, especially ballroom dancing. My father was very elegant, very graceful dancer. During the coronation of the queenof England, there was a dance competition in which many of our embassy people participated. After the process of elimination, my parents won the first prize in ballroom dancing" From In Line of Fire"  by Pervez Musharraf Simon & Schuster (A CBS Company) page 20
 
 Reply:   Many claims withdrawn by Musha
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When "Qudratullah Shahab" made many changes in his controversial "Shahab Nama" , one famous writer taunted on him by saying " A fiction writer has the right to change his novel / creation at


 
 Reply:   Many errors in Musharraf's boo
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The series of mis-spelt names and words begin right at the preface, where just under Musharraf's signature, the capital city of Islamabad has been turned into "Islam bad."
Islamabad, Oct. 6 (PTI): Simon and Schuster, the New York-based publishers of Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's memoir 'In the Line of Fire' are seriously embarrassed because of a number of publishing, spelling and grammatical errors in the book, a media report said.

The series of mis-spelt names and words begin right at the preface, where just under Musharraf's signature, the capital city of Islamabad has been turned into "Islam bad."
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's name was wrongly spelt as "Manmoham" in captions accompanying his pictures in the book though his name is correctly given in the text.

Even the name of Pakistan Prime Minister, Shaukat Aziz, also suffered in the mis-spelling offensive. Thrice his name has been spelled incorrectly, once as "Shuakat" (P-179) and twice as "Shaukut" (cover jacket flap and P-232).
"The spelling mistakes have screwed up the Index section of the book as well," The News reported from Washington.

Asked who was responsible for a number mistakes, the New York-based editor of the book, Bruce Nichols, who has been duly acknowledged by President Musharraf, almost panicked, the report said.

"We are supposed to correct the spellings," Nichols said adding the mistakes were being listed in a story.

He, however, clarified that he was not the company spokesman and could not go on record.

The editors of the book have committed a major blunder in the chapter titled "The Conspiracy". On P-111 the chapter says Nawaz Sharif's father-in-law died in September 1999. Following that a sequence of events is mentioned including a meeting Shahbaz Sharif had with Musharraf "a few days later", the report said.

But on the next page, P-112, the book says, "Soon after that the PM invited my wife and me to accompany him and his wife to Mecca for a pilgrimage in August 1999....".
"How could Nawaz Sharif have invited Musharraf to go to Saudi Arabia in August 1999 when he is describing the events after September 1999 ? There is a major mix-up in the months, which editors of the book Humayun Gauhar or Bruce Nichols should have detected, had they paid attention," it said.

Grammatical mistakes and loose expressions also abound in the book. On P-32, while the definite article is missing before "most muscular physique."

http://www.hindu. com/thehindu/ holnus/001200610 061652.htm

 
 Reply:   Someone on TV very rightly ter
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Someone on TV very rightly termed Musharaf's Book as " In the Mind of Liar"(asif1_z@yahoo.com)
another name for Musharraf's book Someone on TV very rightly termed Musharaf's Book as " In the Mind of Liar"
 
 Reply:   In the Line of Hell Fire (Comi
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In the Line of Hell Fire (Coming Soon, Insha Allah); Stop Press: Announcement (pathowiz@yahoo.com)
With Allah's Name, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate

Peace be upon you all truth seekers and truth believers!

Gen. Musharraf has written a book titled "In the Line of Fire". Actually the title ought to be "In the Line of Hell Fire" but he omitted the word hell. Gen. Musharraf who is definitely in the Line of Hell Fire along with his masters, supporters and dumb, deaf and blind obedient servants did not mention many facts. I have decided to write a book for him which will bring out truth and nothing but truth. The title of the book would be "In the line of Hell Fire". The book will Inhsa Allah reveal how he and his masters and servants have carried out worst global terrorism against humanity and how he cooperated in committing merciless killings of hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings.
The book will Insha Allah also include the excerpts from Muallah Abdus Salam Zaeef’ famous book "In the prison of Americans". A chapter will also be devoted to gross bungling and mismanagement of Earthquake Funds and Musharraf's personal corruptions e.g. in relation with his Chak Shahzad plot etc.
There will be no copy right except that the book had to be reprinted without any change. No profit is sought from the book and it would be available on WEB Inhsa Allah.

With the Most Cordial Regards,
Sincerely yours,

Prof. (Dr.) Anwar Ul Haque
Consultant Pathologist
116. St. 49 F 11/3 Islamabad 44000
Pakistan
2293707, 2294099
 
 Reply:   yes faisal we are ready to sac
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (5/Oct/2006)
yes faisal we are ready to sacrifice every thing, but i can tunderstad when u quote your references why you always forgot t see the facts, what technology Hizb-ullah has against Israel-US
AOA

yes faisal we are ready to sacrifice every thing, but i can tunderstad when u quote your references why you always forgot t see the facts, what technology Hizb-ullah has against Israel-US

why they couldnt tear apart Hizb-ullah

By force they can take our lives but not our souls , they can take our families but not our pride, they can take all things which are the part of material world and which on the first step are frbidden and thse who poses love to this world will be the one to go to hell.

so are you inviting all of us to the hell.

Dear Faisal, i know there is no intelligence in g to war blindly but if we are avoiding war just for the sake of avoiding it without any moral values then i think it is the foolest decision

take care
Allah hafiz
 
 Reply:   So you are willing to loose ev
Replied by(Ghost) Replied on (5/Oct/2006)
So you are willing to loose everything - country, livelihood, family, etc - for protecting a country like Afghanistan? A country that has never stood by us - Pakistani's? (fais_@hotmail.com)
So you are willing to loose everything - country, livelihood, family, etc - for protecting a country like Afghanistan? A country that has never stood by us - Pakistani's?

Lets talk for discussion sakes the result of Pakistan taking a confrontational policy towards US after 9/11.

The Nuclear weapons that we talk about, the US secret service with the help of its Navy Seals and Cammando would have been destroyed or incapacitated within days. The US would have a complete air space superiority with a few hours. They would be flying sorties after sorties over Pakistan dropping bunker busters over Karachi, Lahore, Pindi, Quetta, Peshawar. Flattening all of them. The Indian army would be used to occupy would the US airforce destroy's. And during this whole episode not one Muslim country would say a word to the US. In the end you would have people living in caves and tents from Kabul to Karachi because we would all be labelled as terrorists.

Faisal
 
 Reply:   woh agur mujhay naa chartaa to
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just give me one reason, thoe who backed musharref for every thing, after he took power from Nawaz Sharef , he just said one thing, "woh agur mujhay naa chartaa to aaj pm hota", what does th
Dear Faisal SiddiQue
your quote
"Because his archers which were suppose to keep the Quresh infantry in check bailed and they got flanked by the infantary - war lingo. This sets an example dont just charge into battle "

Excellent, really excellent, the idea or logic you perceive from above quote is excellent, the war was won by muslims but muslim got greedy and left the place which they were ordered not to, and that caused the winning battle a lost one.
how this scenario fits with "dont go to war untill u r not prepare", the message is if you have a godd leader then obey him in full and keep faith in Allah and you will win inshahAllah, may be you quote a wrong example , instead you should try with "Sullah-e-hudabiyaa", but Musharreff doent fit in either situation, he gave every thing just to save himself.

just give me one reason, thoe who backed musharref for every thing, after he took power from Nawaz Sharef , he just said one thing, "woh agur mujhay naa chartaa to aaj pm hota", what does this mean, this means he took the power just because the ther wanted to took the same from him
both were worng and both did for there own ambitions , none of them was sincere to the nation at that time and nor at this time .this doesnt mean i am saying PPP is the best choice they are the biggest traders among all.
then who we are waiting , this is the Q, and let we all should pray for the real man and we should ask forgiveness for ourselves as well so God take mercy on us.
 
 Reply:   I think people like you are so
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (4/Oct/2006)
I think people like you are so bend on proving that by tying a bomb around your waist and blowing urself up is Jihad(fais_@hotmail.com)
Mr Faisal Shah(devilzdushman@hotmail.com)

I think people like you are so bend on proving that by tying a bomb around your waist and blowing urself up is Jihad. You talk about wars and Islamic example none better then set by our Prophet (PBUH). Badr our Prophet won, but Uhud he lost? Ever wonder why? Because his archers which were suppose to keep the Quresh infantry in check bailed and they got flanked by the infantary - war lingo. This sets an example dont just charge into battle think what concequences would we face, what would the odds be, etc. War is a calculated game and the ones that were great generals were the ones that took calculated risks example our Prophet (PBUH) and another great general of Muslims - Salauddin. Before Salauddin came to the scene we Muslims had lost ever battle we fought against the Crusaders. Salauddin fought calculated battles and was always retreated from battle when odds were against him and never engaged in battle thinking that God was on his side and would defend us no matter what. Yes there were Muslims around him that screamed 'fight..fight. ..fight.. .God is on our side' but he didnt engage in that kind of warfare. God has given us tools, and told us to prepare for battle before you start spreading the Message.

As for our President - Musharaf - going on National TV in the US and protraying Pakistani's as civilized human beings - I am all for it! After 9/11 this was the best example set by a Muslim. He came on National TV and engaged in diologue. Not threatened the West like other Muslim leaders do.

Faisal

 
 Reply:   Winning is not always the resu
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sign of coward nations is that they take temporary safety for essential Liberty. Thus they deserve neither safety nor liberty (rehab_kb@yahoo.com)
Winning is not always the result of an act of Bravery. The important thing is to stand by your principles no matter what is the result. Imam Hussain lost everything, Tipu Sultan lost everything and Nawab Sirajuddaulah lost everything. But they stood fast on their principles and they taught the World what bravery means.

Once J.F.Kennedy said: "The sign of coward nations is that they take temporary safety for essential Liberty. Thus they deserve neither safety nor liberty".

Regarding your remark about Shaheed Bhutto well ! what can I say about people who cannot see & follow a great leader when the fate provides them with one.


Rehman BaBa

 
 Reply:   i suppose u nd president has "
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (3/Oct/2006)
For Faisal Siddiqui, Dude.. i suppose u nd president has "iman ki kamzori".. read the history of ISlam..,(devilzdushman@hotmail.com)
For Faisal Siddiqui
Dude.. i suppose u nd president has "iman ki kamzori".. read the history of ISlam.. muslim fought in the same condition and same challenges in those era.. widout weapon widout food widout basics of life.. and they won.. i do agree afghani were well behind but pakistan wasnt.. nd like john stewarts(i hope thats the real name) on cnn on the daily commedy asked president laughing at him basicly making fun of him.. he askd did u really went wid USA just because u were nuthin infront of us.. sad.. then the fox and freinds were too funny and embrassin in their talk abt Musharaf`s book.. they described it as something "here iam critize me".. wat a president..: -(

brother muslim just need the believe of Allah being wid him then He should look fwd to fight.. becuz V will b Q on the day of judgement abt V for being coward.. thats way people call you brave.. thats my thinkin.. i hope i conveyed my message clearly.. your comments will b most welcome..

 
 Reply:   Tell me one Muslim Country whi
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (3/Oct/2006)
The ones that do confront do it based on OIL revenue - eg Iran but even in that senario Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Nigeria all our US Allies (fais_@hotmail.com)
Tell me one Muslim Country which confronts the West? The ones that do confront do it based on OIL revenue - eg Iran but even in that senario Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Nigeria all our US Allies. That leaves Pakistan, Egypt, Indonasia & Malaysia the only major Muslim countries that dont have Oil and may I ask what is their attitude towards the West?

Geedar or a Leader? Your so called Leader - Bhutto - led to division of Jinnah's Pakistan destroying the main reason for creating Pakistan. If Pervaiz took a confrontational approach with the US, you would be sitting in Pakistan which would be controlled by India ruled by the US.

 
 Reply:   There are many educated , Doct
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You put all egss in one basket. There are many educated , Doctors....Engineer s, Economist, and belong to other profession in JUI and Jamaat-e-Islami. They wear pant shirt (fadi_net@yahoo.co
Dear Brother,
You put all egss in one basket. There are many educated , Doctors....Engineer s, Economist, and belong to other profession in JUI and Jamaat-e-Islami. They wear pant shirt, jeans T-shirt, they are not mullahs at all.

These Mullah are not responsible of the destruction of Pakistan.
In fact PPP and Nawaz League are responsible of the situation. after Zia ul haq, they rule Pak from 1988 to 1999. what they did for Pak? this mullah chief as you mention in ur mail, Moulana Fazul Rehman , was in Benazir Cabinet.
and Jammat was the founder of IJI and NAwaz Sharif came in power over Jamaat shoulders.
Mr. Hammam main sab nangay hi hain. yah Mullah hi hain jinhonnay Afghanistan main jakar USSR say jihad kia. yahi log Kashmir k jihad main bhee hissay daar hain. inhi ki badolat Pakistan communist state na bann saka. warna hamara hashar bhee Colcatta ....Nepal aur USSR ki shikasht say pahlay kay Afghanistan main hota. jab kabul Asia ka lust center ban chuka tha.

I do respect Bhutto from the bottom of my heart, he was great leader of Pak, but his daughter has nothing to share with Pakistan. She and NAwaz Sharif are both hipocrtate.
General Musharraf is holding chair coz of PPP and PMLN. if they both have courage enough, why dont they get together and resign with MMA from Parliament.

 
 Reply:   the USA went in Afghanistan in
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (1/Oct/2006)
the USA went in Afghanistan in 1979. But actions like these are not taken suddently or at the spur of the moment. USA must have made plans well in advance and must have considered all the pr
Yes! the USA went in Afghanistan in 1979. But actions like these are not taken suddently or at the spur of the moment. USA must have made plans well in advance and must have considered all the pros & cons and must have found Z.A. Bhutto the main stumbling block in their designs thus removal of Bhutto & his hanging was (must) before they entered Afhanistan.

Similarily when they again wanted to enter Afhanistan , unfortunately for USA, there was again democratically elected government in Pakistan. Thus the removal of Nawaz Sharif was also important before USA entered Afghanistan. USA removed Nawaz in 1999 and entered in 2001.

Thus the the kargil episode was part of the strategy for the removal of Nawaz just as "Tehreek Nizam-e-Mustafa" was for the removal of Bhutto.

What it signifies is that Pakistanis will have to change their thinking regarding the Mullahs (JUI & Jamat etc etc) and the Military and their alliance with USA in the destructiuon of Pakistan

 
 Reply:   Once Henry kissinger threathen
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"Stop talking about Unity of Muslim Umma, Stop talking about Islamic Atom Bomb, Stop talking about Socialism and allow us to use Pakistan's land to enter Afganistan to fight USSR otherwise W
Once Henry kissinger threathened Shaheed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto that "Stop talking about Unity of Muslim Umma, Stop talking about Islamic Atom Bomb, Stop talking about Socialism and allow us to use Pakistan's land to enter Afganistan to fight USSR otherwise WE WILL MAKE YOU A HORRIBLE EXAMPLE."

Shaheed Bhutto did not buckle under the USA pressure. Shaheed Bhutto did not obey the diktats of the USA and went to the gallows. He was a civilian politician and a LEADER.

30 years later again USA threathened Musharraf that if you do not obey "WE WILL BOMB YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY TO THE STONE AGES" and "EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR AGAINST US, YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE"


Musharraf's reply was "YES BOSS" yep yep yep yep yep. He is a Military General and a Dictator.

THIS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEADER AND A GEEDAR.

And lastly he proved once more that the Pakistan army is nothing but a petty BOUNTY HUNTER
 
 Reply:   why you did this, why you didn
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (28/Sep/2006)
According to Islam, it is written that first get prepared for your enemy before going to war with him, if we see Musharref act in this respect then may be what he did is right
Dear Faisal
According to Islam, it is written that first get prepared for your enemy before going to war with him, if we see Musharref act in this respect then may be what he did is right, but you tell me one thing, being as a Muslim, who is a super power, i think and pretty much infact 110 percent sure that Allah is the Supreme Power and no act against Allah, Islam and Muslims is allowed in what ever circumstances.

According to Mush, we be with america under threat not under any agreement or ethical or logical reason.

this is the same thing which we did in 1971.

After Pak Army quitted from the war in 1971, one reporter asked Gen Niazi, that why you did this, why you didnt fight, he replied that result would be the same in any case, then reporter replied but our position in history would be different. instead of coward nation , our name would be as brave nation.

just think what are we now in the world , a coward and a trader of Islam

secondly, do you know, by writing this book he again break the constitution of Paksitan
 
 Reply:   I totally agreed with the Pres
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (28/Sep/2006)
Faisal Siddiqui fais_@hotmail.com
I totally agreed with the President's action after Spet 11th. Al-Qaida lived in clay huts and lead very premitive lives but they challanged the might of the USA - it makes no logical sense. If you want to confront the might of the West then one has to make oneself strong and that you cannot do thru illiteracy, treating women as slaves, and having no knowledge of science. Just bearing a KK and strapping oneself with a bomb will not solve all the problems in the Muslim World. We need more people like the President of Pakistan - Musharaff!

Faisal

 
 Reply:   'In the Line of Fire' as "pack
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Terming Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's book 'In the Line of Fire' as "pack of lies" and a "national shame", the Opposition today slammed him for disclosing state secrets in his memoir
Islamabad, Sept. 27 (PTI): Terming Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's book 'In the Line of Fire' as "pack of lies" and a "national shame", the Opposition today slammed him for disclosing state secrets in his memoir and demanded a special session of Parliament to discuss it.

In a statement published in the media here today, deposed Prime Minister Navaz Sharif's spokesman Nadir Chowdhri described the book as "anti-Pakistan" and "a pack of lies" aimed at rewriting history. He said Musharraf seemed to have decided to make some money, realising that his "political demise" was near.

He said the General had made personal attacks on Sharif and lied about the Kargil disaster and the "illegal coup" he mounted to overthrow a democratically elected government in 1999.

He condemned attempts at maligning Pakistan nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan and said it was reprehensible and unprecedented that an army chief had presented such a negative image of Pakistan.

 
 Reply:   Will Musharraf's book reopen o
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Now he must respond to some of the strongest criticism and denials about his sensational claims made in In The Line of Fire.
By Shahzeb Jillani
BBC News, Washington



Not surprisingly, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf's memoirs have generated a strong reaction.
Now he must respond to some of the strongest criticism and denials about his sensational claims made in In The Line of Fire.
In an interview with an American TV network before the book launch, Gen Musharraf said that the US had threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the Stone Age" if it did not cooperate in the war on terror.
In a joint press briefing after meeting President Bush at the White House on Friday, he refused to clarify the comments saying "he was honour-bound" to the publishers not to discuss the book before the launch.
For his part, President Bush said he is not aware of his country making such a threat to Pakistan.
Startling claims
Moreover, Richard Armitage, the former US official Gen Musharraf names as having delivered the threat to his intelligence chief, has denied the remarks attributed to him.
Mr Armitage, however, admits that soon after 9/11 he did deliver "a strong message" to the Pakistanis that either they were with the US or against it in the US-led war on terror.
In his book, Gen Musharraf has also made some startling claims about the 1999 Kargil conflict with India.
He lauds Pakistan army's "landmark" performance during the Kargil conflict and claims that it was the Indian army which wanted to capture Pakistani territory in 1999 that finally led to the Kargil war.
For many Indians, Kargil is a painful episode of betrayal and military adventure by Pakistan.
No wonder then, that President Musharraf's latest claims have drawn bitter reaction from Indian politicians and the media.
"All that he is saying is a pack of lies. He attacked us and then lost. That's the reality," is how India's former national security advisor, Brajesh Mishra, sums up the popular Indian sentiment.
The renewed controversy over what led to the Kargil conflict and who was responsible for it comes at a time when nearly more than a week ago the two countries decided to resume the suspended peace talks.
During the recent meeting in Havana, Gen Musharraf and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh pledged to work together to resolve all their disputes, including Kashmir.
'Trust deficit'
For the first time, they also decided to set up a joint mechanism to fight terrorism, something Mr Singh's government is still facing a lot of criticism for from the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
According to Indian officials, in Havana, the two sides made significant progress in improving the "trust deficit" between the two South Asian rivals.
Now, analysts worry that Gen Musharraf's candid views about the Kargil conflict threaten to reopen old wounds and spoil the prevailing positive mood for dialogue between the two nations.
In Pakistan, Gen Musharraf's critics have taken strong exception to the way he is seen to be promoting his book during his official US visit.
The opposition has accused him as a self promoting military ruler seeking to make a fortune in the name of Pakistan.
But, say his supporters, like him or not, through his controversial disclosures, he has managed to sell the book as a must read on contemporary Pakistan.
Meanwhile, In The Line Of Fire, out at the book stands in the US and Pakistan since early Monday morning, is said to be selling fairly well.
The book ranked 17th and 18th on online book retailer Amazon.com and Barnes & Nobles best sellers list respectively just before its launch. Within hours, it jumped to 14th on Amazon list and 12th on Barnes & Nobles site.
Given the controversies it seems to have triggered, the book is expected to climb further on the best sellers list.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news. bbc.co.uk/ go/pr/fr/ -/2/hi/south_ asia/5380350. stm
Published: 2006/09/26 05:18:23 GMT © BBC MMVI
 
 Reply:   Baloch community wants you to
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A Baloch baloch4freedom@ yahoo.com wrote: Please forward to as many people as you can. Boycott Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's Memoirs; Don't Buy In The Line of Fire
A Baloch wrote: Please forward to as many people as you can. Boycott Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's Memoirs; Don't Buy In The Line of Fire General Pervez Musharraf, the President-Pretender of
Pakistan, and one of the most popular and
media-friendly world leaders, has finally finished his ghost-written memoirs, its title ripped off from the 1993 Clint Eastwood film In The Line of Fire.

A Task Accomplished

Overseeing the writing of In The Line of Fire had to be an exhaustive exercise considering that Mr Musharraf has been occupied in numerous urgent tasks, such as trying to catch Osama bin Laden, helping to bring stability to Afghanistan, controlling the Taliban, banning India-targeting terrorist organizations, and most importantly - trying to build a genuine, corruption-free democracy in Pakistan.

At least, these are the responsibilities that the world hopes Mr Musharraf is sincere about.

However, the least urgent task of Pakistan's Delhi-born ruler has been accomplished and he now has his 368-page autobiography, promoted by none else than
his closest ally, US President George Bush, who advised the journalists present in a White House press conference to just 'buy the book'!

(webmaster comments Bush taunted in the conference, not encourged, the people about buying the book, he taunted because when reporters asked Q abt threat then instead of giving the answer Mush told them to read the book then Bush commented that he is asking yu to buy the book for finding the answer, that was the easiest way for Mush to handle the Q of the Eve. )

Should You Really Buy the Book?

That is up to you. But President Bush's recommendation must not be a discouraging factor. Do not decide
against it because you suspect Mr Musharraf might be faking his war on Islamic terrorism; because his
government might be discreetly backing Taliban incursions in southern Afghanistan; or because his army might be looking the other way as Mullah Omar
continue to hide in Baluchistan' s capital Quetta.

Do not hesitate buying it because you feel strongly about the General's betrayal to India, in the summer of 1999, when he secretly deployed troops in the Indian-controlled Kashmir even as his Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif, was reciting peace-poetries with the
Indian Prime Minister. Also ignore Mr Musharraf's sinister address to Pakistan, following 9/11, when he
defended his decision to support USA by citing the temporary alliance that Prophet Muhammad had tactically made with the infidels of Mecca.

Under no circumstances should your vague distrust for Mr Musharraf make you prejudiced against his memoirs.

Why You Must Not Buy In The Line of Fire?

But there still exists a strong reason not to buy this autobiography - General Pervez Musharraf doesn't love Pakistan.

He is not letting Pakistan takes its rightful place as a modern Islamic nation. He is the latest in a line of
dictators to deny the Pakistanis their right to vote out elected governments. He has disallowed non-graduates, a major portion of unprivileged Pakistanis, from running for office, elections that are fraudulent anyway. He has threatened exiled former prime ministers, Pakistan's most popular leaders, with
instant imprisonment if they dare to return. He enabled the Islamist parties, for the first time in the country's history, to form their own government.

Most likely it was his malicious regime that kidnapped and killed a journalist early this year. It was his commanders who killed the dissident rebel leader Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti in such a way that Mr Bugti 'did not know what hit him'.

Worse, he has insulted Pakistani women by calling rape a 'money-making concern' and a ploy by rape victims 'to get money and a visa to emigrate' to western countries.

Finally, can your conscience permit you to buy this book if you have attachments to that section of Pakistani people who happen to be secular, progressive, and desirous of freeing themselves from the yoke of military dictatorship?

Only One Course

It is not to be overlooked that the memoir has received generous media coverage, fuelling suspense and interest, and its author has all good reason to look forward to hefty royalties. Although a word by Mr Hugo Chᶥz would have helped more than the most passionate recommendations by Mr Bush! Priced at US$ 28, and on sale at Amazon for $16.80, Mr Musharraf has
reportedly been paid $1 million by the publishers Simon and Schuster.

Go on, buy the book if it is not disconcerting to have your money trickle into the bank account of this dictator.

But if you are even slightly hesitant, boycott it.
http://blogcritics. org/archives/ 2006/09/25/ 162134.php
 
 Reply:   I donot know if anyone of you
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (27/Sep/2006)
shadikatyal shadikatyal@yahoo.com
I donot know if anyone of you seen his interview on TV but he was
happy to lie all around.
Let us take his lie about being told that if not joined USA will be
bombed etc. It was told to him 5 years gao and now he brings it up
why to sell the book.
His statment that he was not aware of Dr. Q selling nurclear know
how and was surprised to learn from CIA. 180 tons of materail was
shipped from Karachi and he was unaware????

He stated that Nuclear Reserach Lab is protected by Militry but that
is that no one enters illegaly and not what is taken out by insiders.
He said all that must have been taken inside car to ship abraod. so
the question was 180 tons and reply must be in long period.

He wants to sell his book and as long as USA is willing to tolrate
his lies and continue to help, the world can wait for the day of
kingdom come. He is running scared for his life and thus writen this
book so he can later show his own people that he earned every penny
with hard work.
 
 Reply:   They all lie, don't you know t
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (27/Sep/2006)
Ronald Stanford stanfor2@yahoo.com
They all lie, don't you know that, why do you think our, our world is so screwed
up. No solid foundation in which to set a standard for real world reform, in
order to save the human race. Surely you understand the grab what you can get
now and screw later and those who live in it.
There, the politicians of this planet are only concerned with how they will
fare financially after retirement, if they retire. Some don't, Castro is a
perfect example, he has 4 billion in his coffers, and he is eighty with no
signs of retiring. Of course Mush lied, they all do!!!

Stanford, original American

 
 Reply:   While I do not agree with Pres
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (27/Sep/2006)
satbir singh ssbedi1945@yahoo.cm
While I do not agree with President Musharraf that Kargil was a major success of Pakistan but I am of the
view that it showed the abmyssal failure of the Indian Ingelligence agencies. The Indian Intelligence agencies have still not learnt the lesson and go on
showing their clossal failure in providing timely intelligence to the Government. Many terrorist activities in India could have been checked had there
not been a failure on the part of these agencies.
Also the coordination between military, intelligence agencies, defence and home Ministries and the State Governments also leave much to be desired. Many lives
of young and brilliant military officers had to be sacrificed because this lack of the functioning of the Government both at Centre and State level as well as
the various intelligence agencies.

Satbir Singh Bedi

 
 Reply:   Musharraf takes on Bush over I
Replied by(Ghost) Replied on (27/Sep/2006)
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf took on US President George Bush by reiterating that the US military action in Iraq had exacerbated terrorism and made the world a more dangerous place.
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf took on US President George Bush by reiterating that the US military action in Iraq had exacerbated terrorism and made the world a more dangerous place.


In his book, The Line of Fire, Musharraf has written that 'I never favored the invasion of Iraq because I feared it would exacerbate extremism as it has most certainly done. The world is not a safer place because of the war in Iraq. The world has become far more dangerous.'


"I stand by it. Absolutely," he said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, who asked if he would like to either revise or amend this contention, which was in direct contrast to Bush's assertion only hours earlier during a joint press conference with Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai that the military invasion in Iraq was imperative to combat terror.?


Asked whether this meant that he totally disagreed with the President of the United States, Musharraf replied, "I've stated whatever I had to. It has made the world a more dangerous place."


He also reiterated that there was no necessity for the US to violate the sovereignty of Pakistan to capture or kill Osama bin Laden or his deputy Ayman el-Zawahiri or any of the other al Qaeda leadership, even if Washington had actionable intelligence that these al Qaeda leaders were in Pakistan.


Bush had told CNN earlier in an interview that if such 'actionable evidence' were available, the US would have no qualms about going into Pakistan.? "Absolutely. Absolutely. We would take the action necessary to bring him into justice," he had said.


Musharraf said, "I have been giving my comments that this is a very sensitive area and our decision is that we operate on our side of the border and US forces and allies operate on the other side. Now, having said that, we are hunting Osama and Zawahiri together. We are on the hunt, we are on the lookout for him. When we locate him, we have to take action -- we have to take effective action to do away with him."


Asked what was wrong if the US tried to kill or capture bin Laden or his deputy in Pakistan, Musharraf reiterated, "It's a very sensitive issue. We should not be discussing how and who is to deliver the blow. But whenever we locate him, we have to deal with him and let's leave it at that and let's not get into the sensitivities of who and how it will be done.? We will use anything that is required to deal with the situation."?


Musharraf bristled when asked why it was OK for the US to hunt for al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan but not in Pakistan.


He angrily asserted, "Please don't compare Pakistan with Afghanistan. Pakistan is a very, very stable country. We have a strong government, we have a strong military, we have a strong intelligence system. Everything in Afghanistan had broken down. So how can you compare the two?"


"We don't want our sovereignty to be violated, whereas in Afghanistan there was an issue of terrorism within Afghanistan. After 9/11 law and order was totally broken down," he said.


"It was warlordism going on -- the situation in Afghanistan was various warlords were controlling different parts of Afghanistan. (So) How can you compare that with Pakistan?"


He also dismissed suggestions by some analysts and observers that Taliban leader Mullah Omar and his coterie were in Quetta, Pakistan. "This is most ridiculous. In Quetta in Pakistan, it's the provincial headquarter. There is a corps headquarters, there are two divisions, there is a provincial government functioning and there is an intelligence set-up of CIA and ISI," he said.


"I must say that both of them are inefficient if they don't even know that Mullah Omar's there," he said sarcastically.
Asked whether he favored another Islamic country, Iran, developing a nuclear weapon, since Pakistan was the first Islamic nation to acquire such a capability, Musharraf argued that "we developed it because of our security perspective, because of our threat perception."


"We don't believe that there should be any more nuclear proliferation and we don't think that Iran has suffered from a threat perception that we suffered from," he said.
URL for this article: http://www.rediff. com//news/ 2006/sep/ 27mush2.htm
 
 Reply:   Musharraf calls for the Muslim
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (26/Sep/2006)
President Musharraf takes many stances that will make news. He calls for the Muslim world to recognize Israel once a viable Palestinian state is created. He urges the repeal of Pakistan's 19
President Musharraf takes many stances that will make news. He calls for the Muslim world to recognize Israel once a viable Palestinian state is created. He urges the repeal of Pakistan's 1979 Hudood law. He calls for the emancipation of women and for their full political equality with men. He tells the sad story of Pakistan's experience with democracy and what he has done to make it workable.

Concerning A. Q. Khan and his proliferation network, he explains what the government knew and when it knew it, and he reveals fascinating details of Khan's operations and the investigations into them.

http://www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?tab=1&pid=523841
 
 Reply:   CIA paid us well says Musharra
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (26/Sep/2006)
The CIA has paid Pakistan millions of dollars for catching Al Qaeda fighters during the five years since the September 11 attacks on the United States, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf wr

ISLAMABAD: The CIA has paid Pakistan millions of dollars for catching Al Qaeda fighters during the five years since the September 11 attacks on the United States, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf wrote in a memoir released yesterday.

"We've captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States. We've earned bounties totalling millions of dollars," wrote Musharraf, who elsewhere in his book titled In the Line of Fire described how the US administration persuaded him with threats to join a global 'war on terrorism'.

Musharraf recounted how he decided it would be suicidal to face a US attack after being threatened by Washington a day after Al Qaeda's strikes on September 11, 2001.

With the United States demanding Pakistan's help to launch attacks on Al Qaeda and its Taliban hosts in Afghanistan, Musharraf recalled how the then US Secretary of State Colin Powell had telephoned him with an ultimatum: "You are either with us and against us." He also wrote that Powell's deputy, Richard Armitage warned Lieutenant-General Mehmood Ahmad, the director-general of the Inter-Services Intelligence, that if Pakistan chose the terrorist's side "then we should be prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age".

Armitage, who like Powell has left government, yesterday denied using such a threat, after Musharraf first described the exchanges during an interview with CBS's 60 Minutes last week.

Musharraf's autobiography In the Line of Fire was released in New York yesterday, but some bookshops in Islamabad were already selling copies.

Elaborating on how he decided to take a foreign policy U-turn by dumping support for the Taliban, Musharraf described how he first weighed the option of fighting the United States.

"I war-gamed the United States as an adversary," he wrote, saying he assessed whether Pakistan could withstand the onslaught.

"The answer was no, we could not, on three counts." Pakistan's military would have been wiped out, its economy couldn't be sustained, and the nation lacked the unity needed for such a confrontation, Musharraf wrote.

Furthermore, Musharraf was worried that if Pakistan did not accede to Washington's demands, the United States would take up an Indian offer to provide bases.

He foresaw India using the opportunity to either launch a limited offensive in the disputed Kashmir region, or more probably New Delhi would work with the United States and the United Nations to turn the present disputed ceasefire line dividing Kashmir into a permanent border.

He also expected the United States would seek to destroy Pakistan's newly developed nuclear weapons. And he feared the infrastructure built since Pakistan's formation in 1947 would be decimated.

Finally, Musharraf said he had to answer whether it was worth Pakistan destroying itself for the sake of the Taliban.

"The answer was a resounding no," Musharraf concluded.

Musharraf also risked reopening old controversies with a chapter devoted to the Kargil conflict with India in 1999.

Indian distrust of Musharraf, who was army chief at the time, stems partly from suspicions that he was directly responsible for sending forces across the ceasefire line in the mountains above the town of Kargil.

Musharraf, however, maintained that no regular forces crossed into Indian territory, and the conflict was escalated by India after its troops ran into Kashmiri 'freedom fighters' who had moved in advance of the Pakistani troops.

He also said exiled former premier Nawaz Sharif was fully aware of the army's deployment, something Sharif denies.

Musharraf described Kargil as a military success, and though the episode backfired on Pakistan diplomatically at the time, he believed it helped pave the way for the latest peace process.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=156821&Sn=WORL&IssueID=29190

 
 Reply:   The book is a collection of li
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (26/Sep/2006)
Posted by: "Dr N Bhashyam" drnbhashyam@gmail.com
The book is a collection of lies and utterlies.It is a treatise on self
glorification. Any way one has to pay around thousand rupees to see the
product of general's lie manufacturing talent.

 
 Reply:   It is a fact that “Kargil” has
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (26/Sep/2006)
Posted by: "Mukesh Varma" mukeshvarma@yahoo.com
Bhai Satbir,

It is a fact that “Kargil” has a glaring intelligence failure of the recent times. However, General Mush writes that "Kargil" was India’s initiative and that Pakistan only thwarted Indian army’s move. If we take his words on its face value (?????) then our intelligence agencies may get a huge breather!!!! ????

-- MV

 
 Reply:   General Musharraf's Book and K
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (26/Sep/2006)
Posted by: "satbir singh" ssbedi1945@yahoo.com
While I do not agree with President Musharraf that
Kargil was a major success of Pakistan but I am of the
view that it showed the abmyssal failure of the Indian
Ingelligence agencies. The Indian Intelligence
agencies have still not learnt the lesson and go on
showing their clossal failure in providing timely
intelligence to the Government. Many terrorist
activities in India could have been checked had there
not been a failure on the part of these agencies.
Also the coordination between military, intelligence
agencies, defence and home Ministries and the State
Governments also leave much to be desired. Many lives
of young and brilliant military officers had to be
sacrificed because this lack of the functioning of the
Government both at Centre and State level as well as
the various intelligence agencies.
Satbir Singh Bedi
 
 Reply:   Thankyou mate
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (26/Sep/2006)
Nice Contribution
Thankyou mate, nice contribution
Musharef accepted here that he was araid of America and thats why he left talibaan and joined USA, from here it is very much confirmed again that by using this lame excuse, we cant fight America, we will keep on demoralizing ourselves, we are not afraid of anger of Allah but we are afraid of anger of America , which is for our so-called leaders is "a real Super power".
lets try or wait to find out what musharef has said about Kargil and Dr A Q khan.
 
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