Dear Brother
Salutation accepted but the content didn't fall in line with salutation...(smiles)
Please re-read my words. I wasn't defending Musharraf or wasn't even saying he was right in certain arguments.
All I said was a comment on character of our leaders that nobody has ever had the courage to challenge westerners aloud on the floor of their parliaments etc. and say that "West is obsessed with democracy"..All leaders have always said, yes mai baap app theek kehte hain hum aisa he karein gain.
Gandhi (although I am against him since he was greatest enemy of Pakistan) once said,"Western version of democracy is really great; somoen should really give it a try!"...meaning thereby that the version of democracy that they want to apply to us is not there in their own systems.
I really wish we have a day when an ordinary citizen can stand up and challenge the ruler of country without being targetted like hazrat was asked that how come you go2 chaddars from 'mal-i-Ghaneemat' whereas everybody got one...so yes, this democracy is welcome...not the bush-blair democracy...
Lastly, I appreciate your emotions for the betterment of Pakistan. It really shows your passion that you want to do something for the country. Some members of the forum may agree with your version and some may not. I will request you to be polite towards people having a difference of opinion, since basically we are all draining our brains with a view to envision a better Pakistan. Just review your posts before submitting them and see if the reader might be offended by any words?
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Salute to you Mr NRQaziscript
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Noman)
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Dear Respected NRQazi
You should go to doctor and should tell him your reasoning and may be he will be able to advise you some thing.
I think we should praise Musharraf for threatening and provoking people to beat journalists as well.
I think we should salute him for saying that Pakistani dont deserve the human rights which you have as well.
Yes he is right in some way in saying that every country needs his own style of democracy, but he didn't dare to tell us what kind of democracy or system Pakistani deserves
Just ask him, is there any system feasible for Pakistan without him, the answer is simple no.
OK, may be you are right and he also that every country needs different setup to run government, but i think you might be agree with me that all countries and all people in the world needs same and equal kind of justice.
Now please dont ask me about example and also dont ask me when was the last time, because this Q/excuse is so childish.
If we never had doesn't mean that we should not have as well.
Please instead of looking on the part of phrase try to see the whole speech as well.
If he says a sentence it doesn't mean whole sentence is wrong, part of the sentence can be right but part of sentence wont make whole sentence right as well.
e.g, Musharraf is Pakistani and a patriot. if i start saying this sentence is the biggest lie i ever heard then you should not start justifying that he is Pakistani and his sentence is not wrong.
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WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME?script
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nrqazi)
Replied on (28/Jan/2008)
Respected Writer
I agree that nothing has really worked for Musharraf since March 9 and yes this may all be beginning of his end.
However, can you recall when has any Pakistani leader been able to challenge a western policy on their own ground? Every Pakistani leader who visits abroad, plays to the tunes of west and has never had the courage to stand up and say that democracy may be good for you but doesn't work for us.
Secondly, going by the western version of democracy, wasn't it the democratically elected governements of Bush & Blair who first bluffed their nation & parliaments by giving false reasons of war and then even when their bluff was exposed, they got re-elected also. SO there must be something wrong with this version of democracy where as although they did not truly represented their peoples' wishes and opinions, they still got thir way!
Thirdly, do you really think west gives a damn whether their is democracy or whatever in Pakistan. They always want one reason or the other to keep pakistan away from technology to universities etc. They have never objected to Indian nukes but Pakistani nukes are their greatest worry although we just developed them as a safeguard against Indians.
So please don't get carried away by western hype of democracy. Basic human rights are not available to pakistanis anyway, be it democratically elected governements or be it military dictators or be it imposition of emergency. Rather, look at the history, you will find all dictators by character as democratically elected people.
Its alright to do Musharraf bashing to win votes but please give the devil his due credit taht he is the first ever person who has stood in theor parliament and told them that your version and obsession of democracy is not applicable to us..