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"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity".
(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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Full Name: Noman Zafar
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Pope Benedict should self-criticise Christianity' s violent past and present before commenting on the other faith.

FACTS AND ONLY FACTS

  • The massacre beyond comparison happened and still happening in Chechnya and the innocent people including women and children are brutally killed and raped every day.

  • The innocent people including women and children brutally killed everyday in Palestine . The Israel , for half a century destroying the Palestinian people and their houses with the help of arms and financial and moral support provided by the USA .

  • The people including women and children in Iraq killed during the war and 12 years long sanctions. 500,000 children under age 5 would have alive today if sanctions did not exist. This hijacking and hostage taking of Iraq did by the so called civilized people.

  • The innocent boys and girls killed in Afghanistan during Russian and American invasion.

  • The massacre beyond comparison happened in Bosnia and Kosovo and the innocent people including women and children are brutally killed and raped.

  • Anybody can forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? Who did this, Muslims or Christians?

  • Who used weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the history of mankind, Muslims or Christians?

  • Anybody can forget Hitler? He was a Roman Catholic.

  • Anybody can forget Vietnam War and the chemical weapons used to kill poor Vietnamese? Who did this, Muslims or Christians?

  • Anybody can forget Stalin who killed millions of people in Russia ? He was a Christian.

  • Any civilized man can forget AbuGharaib prison torture in Iraq ?

  • Anybody can forget Oklahoma bombing? Who did this? Timothy McVeigh was a homegrown product.

  • Anybody can forget the killing fields in Cambodia ? Paul Pot was a Muslim?

  • Anybody can forget 2 World Wars? How many people died in these wars? Who fought these wars?

  • Any human being can justify the killing and destruction of one country, Afghanistan , by America in order to capture one man, Osama Bin Laden? Bush is a terrorist or humanist? What is the meaning of terrorism?

  • Any human being can justify the killing and destruction of one great country, Iraq , by America in the name of WMD and which was proved later as a big lie? Bush is a Born-Again Christian. Bush is a terrorist or humanist?

  • Anybody can forget the Crusades against Muslims in the 10th century? Who did this, Muslims or Christians?

  • The French killed about a million Muslims in Algeria because they wanted independence. Who did this, Muslims or Christians?

  • The USA and Britain killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Who did this, Muslims or Christians?

  • Serbs have killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims and raped thousands of women in Bosnia and Kosovo.

  • The massacre of Sabra and Shatila in Beirut was not done by Muslims, but by Christians of Lebanon, protected and supported by the Israelis.

  • The genocide of Bosnian Muslims is committed by the Serbs (Greek Orthodox), and the Croats (Catholics). The Bosnian Muslims were denied the means to defend thousands, while non-Muslims were given arms to kill Muslims.

  • The fight between the Catholics and Protestants of Northern Ireland is not the work of Muslims.

  • The Ku Klux Klan is a white militant Christian fundamentalist group. They still exist in the USA , and are not banned. They are not accused as white militant Christian fundamentalists.

  • The invasion of Panama by the US Government and putting President Noriega in jail is not considered state terrorism or a state of fundamentalism. It was considered liberation of that country and offering the people the so called "American democracy". The ordinary, innocent citizens of this country were slaughtered, imprisoned and tortured.

  • In Chile , US brought down the democratically elected government of Salvadore Allende and installed the right-wing military dictator General Augusto Pinochet. The ordinary, innocent citizens of this country were slaughtered, imprisoned and tortured.

  • The invasion of a tiny island Grenada by the U.S. Government and the shackling of its president as a slave are considered a liberation movement, but not a state of terrorism. The ordinary, innocent citizens of this country were slaughtered, imprisoned and tortured.

  • The attack of Libya by American weapons during the Reagan administration was not considered terrorism or fundamentalism, but part of the New World Order scheme.

  • The attack on the nuclear reactor in Baghdad by Israelis was considered a heroic achievement of the government of Israel , but not terrorism and fundamentalism.

  • Fundamentalism  has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims . It has to do with Christianity.

  • Holy War and the idea of the infidels are terminologies that have to do with the Christian crusaders.

 

I can list down in "tons" the atrocities committed by Western "Civilized people" to the humanity. The media mostly associate terrorism with the Muslims but it is the Christians and Jews that hold the record when it comes to the number of children and other innocent people killed.

 Reply:   Was Islam Spread by the Sword?
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It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force.
 

Was Islam Spread by the Sword?

 

On Sept. 12, 2006, Pope mentioned in his address during his visit to Germany that: "˜"¦Islam was spread by the sword"¦'.

 

It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force. The following points will make it clear, that far from being spread by the sword, it was the inherent force of truth, reason and logic that was responsible for the rapid spread of Islam.


1.   Islam means peace.

Islam comes from the root word "˜salaam', which means peace. It also means submitting one's will to Allah (swt). Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting one's will to the will of the Supreme Creator, Allah (swt).


2.   Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace.

Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice.


3.   Opinion of historian De Lacy O'Leary.

The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O'Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):

"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated."


4.   Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years.

Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhan, that is the call for prayers.


5.   14 million Arabs are Coptic Christians.

Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.


6.   More than 80% non-Muslims in India.

The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.


7.   Indonesia and Malaysia.

Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?"


8.   East Coast of Africa.

Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, "Which Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa?"


9.   Thomas Carlyle.

The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book "Heroes and Hero worship", refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man's head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can."


10.   No compulsion in religion.

With which sword was Islam spread? Even if Muslims had it they could not use it to spread Islam because the Qur'an says in the following verse:

"Let there be no compulsion in religion:
Truth stands out clear from error"
                                [Al-Qur'an 2:256]


11.   Sword of the Intellect.

It is the sword of intellect. The sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Qur'an says in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse 125:

"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord
with wisdom and beautiful preaching;
and argue with them in ways that are
best and most gracious."
                              [Al-Qur'an 16:125]


12.   Increase in the world religions from 1934 to 1984.

An article in Reader's Digest "˜Almanac', year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in "˜The Plain Truth' magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, which war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam?


13.   Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe.

Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?


14.   Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson.

Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD (pbuh) was born".


 
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