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"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity".
(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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Full Name: Maryam Sakeenah
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'AS FLIES TO THE WANTON BOYS"¦'

  Maryam Sakeenah

            George Orwell was naïve. The extent of the horror, hypocrisy and double standards he lays bare in his political satire is laughably mild. Welcome to Pakistan, 2007. We are living it all. Orwell, my friends, was a mere chicken.

            A day before the 'Operation Silence' began, Musharraf said while addressing a high-level meeting lasting four hours that a new strategy to curb 'Talibanisation' would be formulated. In the meeting he discussed cracking down on pro-Taliban elements 'not just in the frontier regions but also in the cities', specifically mentioning the strategy to deal with the 'pro-Taliban mosque' in the heart of Islamabad. The same day, paramilitary deployment and patrolling intensified in the vicinity of Lal Masjid, 'clearly indicating the government's decisive inclinations to carry out a comprehensive crackdown on Ghazi brothers"¦ Rangers occupied the CDA flats, built bunkers and laid barbed wires"¦ the whole place exactly looks like an army post.' (The Nation, Tuesday , July 3, 2007).

            And so the tragedy unfurled. The servile henchmen standing guard on the Presidency's  secrets quickly cooked up myths ready to be sold to a gullible public: 'The terrorists in the mosque provoked the action, which had to be responded to.' Held hostage by the official propaganda, we had no alternate versions to choose from. Fed on myths about the evil-minded terrorist-mullah in cap and beard with perverse mind and wretched, devious plans, we accepted the state-sponsored stereotype and talked about how well-deserved the mullah-bashing spree really was. Our human consciousness didn't trouble us with asking questions. The series of lies continually churned out to justify the mayhem unleashed within, kept us conveniently dumbed down and acquiescing. The evil-minded mullahs had planned to make this offensive war and were using innocents as human shields"¦ it was, in fact, a 'hostage-taking crisis', and the well-intentioned government was the noble savior of innocents. We kept swallowing as the media was carefully kept at a safe distance. Childishly, the 'liberal, free media' played along the tune in the mutually agreed-upon plan to 'not show the dead bodies', ensuring the smooth conduct of Operation Silence. And so we feasted on drawing-room chat conspiracy theories of the government-mullah nexus and the 'dramatics' staged by the Red Mosque administration.

            Victims of Doublespeak. Rhetoric went on about the government's humane restraint and desperate appeals to save the 'hostages' within. Big questions like why the media was kept out didn't bother anyone much. Behind the smokescreen of shameless lies went on the murder of innocents_ unleashed terror and state-sponsored oppression that has perhaps been pushed back into the shroud of Silence_ a mystery of history. An iron curtain hulks, screening away the unspoken terrors, the unheard cries that will continue to echo long in the deathly Silence of the mosque's debris.

            The Doublespeak continued, making idiots of us all. While Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi showed extreme flexibility in renouncing all he could to save the innocents, there was an obvious lack of reciprocation by the government, a rigid unwillingness to budge and let matters resolve. The efforts made by the Ulema delegation to save the day were imperiously rejected as the state showed a blind egotism implying an unrelenting readiness to go ahead and finish it up the bloody way. For, the Doublespeak experts could do the job of duping the public so the blood doesn't show much. One of the last things Abdul Rasheed Ghazi said: "Their unwillingness to let negotiations work shows their intent to let blood flow. If they wish to let blood flow, so be it: we are ready to embrace martyrdom."

            A greater hidden agenda, the 'Hidden Hand' mentioned by Chaudhry Shujaat, which made all settlements break down becomes clear. The storming of the mosque came soon after an increasing trend in the Western media to see Musharraf as 'part of the problem' and not the solution_ a 'half-hearted ally' in the War on Terror. Clearly, it is a drama staged to convince the West that we indeed are 'doing enough' to crush such elements. And the message has been sent, bringing in accolades and pats-on-the-back from Musharraf's Western allies. Because the whole affair was staged to secure an image-boost in the West for this government, the government authorities seemed very keen to go ahead and ferociously crack down on the mosque, regardless of the thousands still inside (with occasional quiet phases to show how 'patient' we are trying to be). It is clear that the government willed the mayhem, as echoed in Musharraf's shockingly brazen announcement: 'Surrender or be killed.'

            And this is perhaps the greatest tragedy of this nation. The absolute failure of a democratic culture to take root, the complete subjugation to dictatorial hegemony and the perpetual crippling enslavement to vested interests of the West. The greatest tragedy is how weightless, inconsequential is the ordinary, the citizen of this country, deserving little more than rhetoric to keep him dumbed down, so that the reign of tyranny can perpetuate itself.

            And this is what brings tears in the eyes_ the hard, bitter truth that human lives never weighed on anyone's conscience; that innocent lives were, at best, as cheap as rotten scraps cast aside without feeling your jaw twitch, making way for a dirty agenda serving the Self. The bitter truth is that human beings go on being killed like flies and we go about our business. The shocking truth is that man, at best, is the 'Lord of the Flies', and the Lord of the Flies in us rules as the earthly overlord.   "As flies to the wanton boys are we to the gods, They kill us for their sport,"said Shaekespeare. And to the lone seeker, the questioner, the dreamer, He dictates: "What are you doing here out alone? Aren't you afraid of me? There isn't anyone to help you. Only Me. And I am the Beast. I'm the reason it's no go. Why things are what they are. Come now, get back to the others and we'll forget the whole thing"¦ Aha! This has gone far enough"¦ do you think you know better than I do? I'm going to get waxy. Do you see? You are not wanted. Understand? We're going to have fun on this island. Understand? We are going to have fun on this island! "¦ Or else. We shall do you." (From 'Lord of the Flies' by William Golding)

            But the stars continue to blink in the dark night sky"¦

Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi is beginning to be understood by the generality of our masses as the sinned-against in the episode, the principled idealist victimized by a tyrannical, corrupt system. Maulana Ghazi, they feel, was indeed right_ if general killing of the masjid inmates was what the government thirsted for, it was better to die than to give in to a system so unscrupulous, so drunken with blind egotism. And in doing so he secures a moral victory that will far outlast the machinations of this regime in the hearts of men.

            However, there are still many_ the conspiracy-theorists, the mullah-bashers, the secular liberals who are utterly confused as to what to make of it all. The array of weapons unveiled that were never used, the statements by 'released hostages' of how they wished martyrdom, the delayed, restricted media tour of the mosque, the disappearance ('vapourization') of the dead bodies and so many unanswered questions stare us in the face. The whole scenario seems to challenge and completely shatter the perspective of the secularists. Of course there are still those who go on pretending, but they make themselves look more like patchwork clowns in the process. A 'Human Rights' activist from an NGO in Islamabad said, "The women and children who died weren't all that innocent and so deserve no sympathy"¦ they were extremists."

            The ones more honest than that seem to be confused and are quietly wondering what to make of it all. For, the loathed terrorist Abdul Rasheed Ghazi, in his dying, has made his killers look cruel, oppressive, unscrupulous. And if this is indeed so, his dying becomes noble, almost heroic"¦ But this dare not be said, for it sounds 'extremist' (whatever that means). In his dying, the hitherto vile terrorist has reinstated boldly his ideal and his unflinching fidelity to it. He has towered above the despicable pygmies. If this isn't a hero's embrace of immortality, if this isn't martyrdom, what is?

            A lot of us cannot understand this, and prefer not to face what shines clear as day. Our complete disassociation with the spirit of Islam, our complete estrangement  from its values and idealism explains this inability to call a spade a spade. For, the history of the Kaabah is reddened with suffering and blood, as Iqbal had said. Sacrifice and martyrdom, dying for a cause is the crowning glory of Islam. But we understand not the spirit. "Islam began as a strange thing, and will end as a strange thing. So give glad tidings to the strangers."            (Hadith)

            Beelzebub (Iblis) in his Parliament, (In Iqbal's famous poem), spoke to his subordinates about the strategy to vanquish the faithful thus: "The starving wretched one who is utterly fearless of death, extort the Muhammadan spirit from his self." It is this Muslim spirit that makes one give life, one's very life, to make a bold statement that makes a resounding echo in hearts. In our spiritless selves, our secularized sensibility, this 'outrageous behaviour' that looks curiously noble in the heart of our hearts, makes no sense. But all the same, it echoes in the heart"¦

            And the stars continue to blink in the dark night sky"¦

            In the far flung village of Rojhan Mazari, a tearful young man stands over a dusty grave draped in flower petals. He remembers, his voice choking with tears: "We feel we've been orphaned. This man shone like a full moon in the dark sky"¦" At the numberless anonymous mass graves in Islamabad stand men in sweat-drenched Shalwar Kameez, sobbing and praying, "These innocents are shaheed, (martyrs)" they say, "but we refuse to call them this"¦ but with Allah, their honour is great!" At the Sports Complex, looking expectantly at the list of names and not finding her beloved only child's, a widow from a distant village stands distraught and tearful: "He used to say, Amma, I'll come back a learned man and serve you"¦ I have little hope in anyone that they would help me know where he is," she sobs. "But in Allah, in Him I have all my trust... He is my Caretaker. Allah waris hai"¦"

            And the stars continue to blink in the dark night sky"¦

            And what to make of the lone woman who lost three generations, who lived through the nightmare of death and darkness and dares to bear the lantern still, alone? What to make of her 'militant' hope that no fell sweep can snuff out, that the sacrifices have indeed not gone in vain? What to make of her unflinching commitment to the cause she lives for, the cause she gave her all for? What to make of her unbroken fighting spirit? What to make of the undimmed stars in her eyes, looking ahead at Tomorrow? A Tomorrow watered by the blood and tears of unsung, unnamed thousands? Her towering resilient spirit makes no sense to the modernized sensibility that cannot see beyond the bare survival of the bodily self. Out of history's blood-stained dust, it is the resolute and unshaken faith of people with pride, with the undimmed stars of an unrealized but precious dream  they wouldn't give up for anything, that rises again_ unconquearable. And herein lies a hope never to be snuffed out. As Maya Angelou said, "Out of history's dust you trampled on, I rise. Still, I rise."

             Out of the rhetoric, lies, agendas, blood, fire and debris, it is this spirit that emerges in its exquisite grandeur, ennobled with blood, sweat and tears; immortal, radiant and undying. It is this that cannot, with all the Plans of Beelzebub's Parliament, be extorted from the hearts of men. "And while they plan, Allah also Plans. And the Best of planners is Allah." (The Quran)

 Reply:   I am trying to be fair as much
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

I am trying to be fair a much as i can, and if you want you can post edhi's response as new article, i don't have any issues with that.
So like this your heading will be at top. But i can't restrict other users from replying you, and as you also want discussion with them, so they suppose to reply you as well and in this case their reply will come on top. but if any one come and look int discussion, he will eventually find your posts as well, so i can't see any big deal in it.

Who will have the last say, i can't dictate and predict.

So, if you want any heading to be at top, you can do that through new article as well.
secondly, you can keep the heading same, but try to keep contents different.
i saw your last reply before deletion, 90% was repetitive, and that's why i deleted that.
My only concern is, may be you both (you and Noman) won't be irritated with duplicate posts, but the write can get irritated.
Thanks for understanding.
As a webmaster you will find me neutral, inshahAllah.
 
 Reply:   Webmaster pls be Fair! Let the
Replied by(invite2truth) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

Dear Webmaster
If you study my replies you will find that these are not exactly the same, secondly there is an attempt to stop my replies title from being published as Mulana Edhi's name is mentioned on the heading; as soon as I post a reply the other participant posts his reply so as to suppress my reply heading. I did not break any forum rules? pls check and reply?
 If you really appreciate my postings & replies and want me to continue with this website than please be fair? because I cannot stand Injustice & nepotism; I fight for the truth and By The Grace Of Allah (SWT) all my strengths comes from my desire to fight for the truth.

 
 Reply:   Please don't do duplicate post
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

Dear Invite2Truth
Please avoid posting duplicate replies, as it might irritate the author of article and other discussion participant.

I hope you will understand our point, you are so nice and intellectual, that we don't want to lose you, but in return we expect you to respect the forum rules.
 
 Reply:   I am not changing the subject
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

I even didnt want to be indulge in a discussion with you over this matter of LAL masjid, because lot have been said regarding this incident within last year, and if some one even after can't see what is right or wrong then i can't do any thing.

I only pointed one point and that was , don't give educational titles to those who are not educated enough to bear those titles.

What edhi said could be right or wrong, but i dont want to tak about that.

I hope i have cleared my stance.

What i tried, which u mentioned, i couldn't understand?
Dear Noman(I know you are also the webmaster) even if you try this one hundred times;


 
 Reply:   Please Read Carefully What Edh
Replied by(invite2truth) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

Please Read Carefully What Edhi Said About The Mullas of "Lal Masjid Mullas" and don't try to change the subject.
 
Dear Noman(I know you are also the webmaster) even if you try this one hundred times; Insha-Allah I will do the same and reply you and for the visitors of this web site, with the facts about what Maulana Edhi said regarding the fanatics of "Lal Masjid"
 
I gave my e-mail before if you want a person to person dialogue or chat pls contact me at my e-mail invite2truth@yahoo.com
 

 
 Reply:   My one advice to u, given to m
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

ever look at Muslims what they are doing, always see what Islam is saying.

What a mullah is doing, doesn't mean it is taught to him by Islam.

So what i said, is said in good faith.
If a mullah or whatever is swearing lies on mimber or doing rapes in mosques doesn't mend that all mullahs are wrong or Islamic eduction is wrong.

No molvi, i have ever heard is saying go and kill everyone, everyone who ordered such thing, is saying this on some basis.

If there is an impostor in my house, of course i should do everything to throw him away by any means, i can ask him to leave politely but he is not willing to leave then i have to use force.

Islam is very restrict about certain things, and those things have to be followed always, no matter how much opposition one might get in following those
for example
1-No one will be allowed to use bad words regarding Allah and holy Prophet(PBUH)

2-a Muslim cannot be allowed to change his religion

For certain cases there are no exception but for certain there is.
We need to draw lines for them, but that can only be achieved through negotiations, no one can dictate any one, one can use force and kill other who has less powers,, but by killing anyone nothing will be solved.

So, according to my thinking there should be comprehensive and genuine dialog with all EXTREMIST Muslims.

 
 Reply:   Mufti, Qari, Maulaanaa or Molv
Replied by(invite2truth) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

Mufti, Qari, Maulaanaa or Molvi - Mostly Means "Hate" & "Kill" in Pakistan.
 
Sorry this is the correct state of affairs in Pakistan; you will find very few people like "Maulana Edhi" who say "Live & Let Live".
 
Again sorry to say that all the Islamic Educations cannot make a person "Insan" if the person is corroded from inside.
 
I have myself seen many Maulanas, Muftis & Qaris swearing at the Mimbar or in their offices under the Library of Islamic Books and preaching hatred and also cheating the people for their own benefit.
 
 

 
 Reply:   The wrong use of words Maulaan
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)
.
The wrong use of words Maulaana and molvi is the main cause of Islam's defamation.

The words Mufti, Qari, Maulaanaa and Molvi to be used according to their knowledge of Islam, this is as simple as you can't call dispensor, doctor.

Awarding titles to any Muslim without their knowledge ends up where we are standing right now.

First we start calling any person maulaana, like him, then we start following his teaching as well, because after some times one may forget that his title is not due to his knowledge but only because of respect.

I am not praising or de-faming any one here, i am just requesting that we should give these titles to those who deserves as per their knowledge.

Rest is up to you.

No one supports terrorism, neither u nor me.
But the thing is definition of terrorism changes from person t person, from Palestine's point of view Israel is terrorist and from Israel's point of view Palestine, same is the case for others as well.

 
 Reply:   Maulana Edhi's plea to madress
Replied by(invite2truth) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

Well Dear Noman it is not your authority to give the title of "Maulana" to anybody or not, most of the Pakistani calls him Maulana Edhi and that's it.
 
So you want only to give Title of "Maulana" to "Scholars" I think you mean Muslim Scholars, than I make your job easy just go and see how the Indian Muslim Scholars have shunned Terrorism. It is really a lesson for our so called "Mullas & Maulanas" to Learn

 
 Reply:   Every beard man is not maulana
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)

His faith and ideology regarding Islam is not the one to follow, he indeed a noble man, but being a noble man wont allow you authority in Islam.

His acts for humanity are really exceptional and one should follow those but what he thinks about Islam is his self thinking and some time is not in full accordance with Islam.

Maulaana means scholar, please keep this thing in your mind always

 
 Reply:   "Half Cooked" Mullas are Respo
Replied by(invite2truth) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)
Please read this news from "Dawn" website of 11/07/2007
Edhi's plea to madressahs "” pursue peace, shun arms



By Qudssia Akhlaque


ISLAMABAD, July 10: Having been part of the late-night negotiations between the authorities and Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi to avert bloodshed at the Lal Masjid-Jamia Hafsa compound, Pakistan's leading social worker Maulana Abdul Sattar Edhi told Dawn after the launch of pre-dawn "˜operation Silence' on Tuesday that he had known all along that the obstinate "˜Maulvi' would not listen.

"I knew from the first day that "˜Maulvi' does not listen," said Mr Edhi remorsefully amid the roaring sound of combat operation, eight hours after all attempts to peacefully resolve the Lal Masjid crisis failed.

"This is all a consequence of (Ghazi's) stubbornness," is how he summed it up as he looked on helplessly and desolately.

His message for the people of Pakistan, particularly to thousands of Madaris throughout the country was: "Pursue peace, be humane and shun arms and militancy."

With a distant look in his eyes, the 84-year-old frail Edhi, whose feet were swollen, observed: "Aagar mein bhee ziddi hota tu kamyab na hota" (If I was also stubborn I would not have succeeded).

Edhi had 60 ambulances parked in the area as he sat under a green leafy tree with the sun pouring down on the capital's curfew-hit G-6 sector. Clad in his typical tatty militia outfit and cap, he recalled his three-minute telephonic conversation with Rasheed Ghazi at about 10.30pm on Monday, during which he pleaded for a compromise.

"I advised him against blackmail and reminded him that Islam does not allow killing of innocent people in the name of jihad," Edhi recounted. But he said the Maulana's response was: "Yeh Allah ki marzi hai (This is God's will)" and then disconnected the phone. Edhi tried calling him again but gave up when there was no response even after four attempts.

Edhi believed that the government had shown flexibility and had even respected his call for a ceasefire on Monday afternoon. "The government was willing for a compromise but unfortunately Maulana Abdul Rashid was not forthcoming," he noted.

Edhi said he knew the operation was inevitable when told by the authorities to go and rest at 11.00pm. Edhi received the next call at 3.30am and he rushed to the scene with his ambulances and staff. That was a signal that operation was about to be launched, he said.

He told Dawn that the authorities had sought the services of only six Edhi Foundation ambulances to carry six injured men to the hospital until 1.30pm.

According to him, he had arrived in the capital at his own initiative just a day after returning from New York. He, however, said his wife came here last week after she was directly approached by President Musharraf.

 
Another Dawn News
 
 Dawa distances itself from Lal Masjid management



By Our Correspondent


ISLAMABAD, July 16: Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a prominent religio-political organisation, has distanced itself from the beliefs or activities of the group that was managing the Lal Masjid affairs, and has, in no uncertain terms, declared that no group or organisation has `any legal, constitutional or religious right to forcibly execute and implement Islamic Sharia in the country'.

The JUD, however, says it believes in the right of every citizen of the country to adopt democratic ways to voice grievances or to propagate and educate the people and appeal to the authorities for the implementation of the Islamic system `within the four corners of the constitution and law of the country'.

In a notice sent to Dawn through its lawyers, Jamaat-ud-Dawa has contradicted section of a news story published in Dawn on July 6 headlined "˜Late Night Round', and has declared that the JUD is neither a banned organisation in Pakistan nor any of the arrested people were its members or were involved in the activities of Lal Masjid.

In fact, it has refuted any kind of nexus with Jamia Hafsa or Lal Masjid. It goes on to state that the JUD members have `never participated in any type of illegal activities which are going around Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa, Islamabad. Therefore, the question of arrest of any member of JUD does not arise at all'.

It has further clarified that `the people of Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa belong to a different school of thought'.

Providing a brief description of the organisation's philosophy, the notice says JUD is a humanitarian organisation, and has also achieved distinction in imparting scientific knowledge in contemporary disciplines, including sports and Islamic ethics. Those running the JUD have been referred to as `highly educated, civilised and law abiding citizens who have never been privy to any kind of violence, subversion and anti-state activities'.




 
 Reply:   Rally marks Pakistan mosque ra
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Jul/2008)
Thousands of people have rallied in the Pakistani capital Islamabad to mark the one-year anniversary of a deadly raid on a mosque.
Rally marks Pakistan mosque raid

Slogans against Musharraf were raised and
last year's raid denounced [AFP

Thousands of people have rallied in the Pakistani capital Islamabad to mark the one-year anniversary of a deadly raid on a mosque.

Muslim hardliners, including clerics and students, stood outside the Lal Masjid, [Red Mosque] on Sunday, chanting "God is great" and waving their fists.

Pakistani troops surrounded the mosque last July after clashing with Taliban and al-Qaeda members who were holed up inside.

The troops stormed the compound one week later, leaving at least 100 people dead and prompting a wave of suicide bombings across Pakistan that killed 1,000.

The raid "was done at the behest of America and [US President George] Bush," Shah Abdul Aziz, a cleric and former member of the parliament, said. "But I want to tell America jihad will continue, it will never stop."

"Pervez Musharraf [Pakistani president], you thought you could crush the Islamic movement by attacking the Lal Masjid, but we are telling you, you have failed," he said.

The raid followed a months-long anti-vice campaign by the mosque's leaders who wanted to impose Islamic law.

Tight security

During Sunday's protest, police fanned out in thousands across Islamabad and also laid a tight security ring around the gathering in front of the mosque, putting up barbed wire and picket fences to prevent vehicles from entering the area while pedestrians passed through metal detectors.

Many women and children were killed in
the raid on the mosque complex  [AFP]
In front of a crowd of thousands, mostly men, mosque leaders called for the release of Abdul Aziz, their jailed leader, who was caught fleeing in a woman's burqa on the second day of the siege.

His brother, Abdul Rashid Ghazi, refused to surrender and was killed when security forces stormed the complex.

"The government must also rebuild Jamia Hafsa," an adjoining girls' Islamic school demolished after the crisis, Qazi Abdul Rashid, a protest organiser said.

Musharraf, who has become isolated after the defeat of his allies in February elections, said on Friday that more radical mosques would emerge if extremism and militancy were not tackled.


 
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