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(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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User Name: Noman
Full Name: Noman Zafar
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 Reply:   now when you dont have answer
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (16/May/2007)
we made this forum to educate people and to make Pakistan better, if you cant help to make Pakistan better then we dont need you as well
i called you blind and deaf, because you are acting like this.
at least u could have tried to see and listen.
this i called you according to Qurran, which has mufhoom like this, aur hum nay un kay dilloon pur mohrain laga dee hain, aur woh naa sun suktay hein, naa dekh suktay hein.
my brother these words are not abuses, these words to show the frustration.
why you are not seeing, why you cant see.
every politician of this country can be corrupt but not every Pakistani, every politician can hate Muhajir but not every Pakistani.
if we talk about MQM then it is MQM only it is not about Muhajir or Karachites.
and if you want to leave then you can leave, because we made this forum to educate people and to make Pakistan better, if you cant help to make Pakistan better then we dont need you as well.
 
 Reply:   R U EDUCATED?
Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (16/May/2007)
WHAT TYPE OF WORDS YOU USED FOR ME???

Nomi,

Allah Tum Logon Ko Khosh Rakhay..Ameen.
 
This is my last visit to your web forum....if you can remove id from your forum I shall be very thankful to you..Please remove my id......
 
Thanks.
 
Islam Zindabad
Pakistan Zindabad
 
Regards,
Kashif
 

 
 Reply:   This will be my last answer to
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (16/May/2007)
i acknowledgd when you put the article of killer of Hakeem saeed, i acknowledged when you put article about aitizaz ahsan, i acknowledge Isolation and adnan as well, but u people are blind.
i am anti-MQM not anti-Karachites and anti-Muhajir, can u duff people hear it, my brain is about to explode, but you duff and blind people cant understand, listen to me, i am anti-MQM and there is no such thing like karchites and muhajir for me as every one is Paksitani.
 
Just one last time i will try to give answers to your Questions.
(There is no one worthy to be worshipped but Allah, Muhammad is His (last) Messenger.
SalLalLahu Alehe WaAlehe WaSabehe WaSalLam)
i agreed 
(There is none worthy of worship but Allah alone, Who has no partner. His is the dominion and to Him belongs all praise, and He is Able to do all things. Glory is to Allah. Praise is to Allah. There is none worthy of worship but Allah. Allah is the Most Great. There is no might and no power except by Allah's leave, the Exalted, the Mighty. My Lord, forgive me.)
i agreed  
(Nomi, you did not acknowledge anything or mine..previously I asked lot of time why these happend with Karachities, did you ever give answer to those questions...?????)
i acknowledgd when you put the article of killer of Hakeem saeed, i acknowledged when you put article about aitizaz ahsan, i acknowledge Isolation and adnan as well, but u people are blind and i always acknowldged all of your non-political writings as well
My question was.
 
(1 - Why Punjab Govt closed the borders of Punjab for Muhajir??)
do you have any evidence abut this false allegation, as i am muhajir and i am living in multan, khanewal and my family is living in this province from 1947, and my relatives living in Karachi and across Pakistan as well.
 
(2 - Why Punjab Feudal assassinated Liqat Ali Khan??)
any one who did this should be sent to jail, but it is not proved till today, and i am not saying did punjabi killed him or not, because any one who killed him was anti-Pakitan not ani-Muhajir. you can't impose thinking of one person or group to the thinking of whole province, if you will continue to do so, then all those who are saying Muslims are terrorist becuase few muslims are terrorist will be right. and in my understanding Army Gen of that time were behind his killing. Liaqat Ali Khan didnt come Paksitan as muhajir he came to Pakistan as Pakistani and i think tody he will be disoppointed because of all this.
 
(3- Why Capitcal is shifted from Karachi to Punjab???)
Capital was shifted in the time of Ayub Khan, and he was from NWFP not from Punjab, first of All, secondly it can be seen very clearly that from stratigical point of view, making karachi as a capital of Pakistan was a security risk, why you didnt ask why Karachi was made Capital, and you didnt ask only 16% of paksitani speks urdu language but it is still a mother tongue of Pakitan.
why you cant see other things as well and IslamAbad is not part of punjab, it is known as fedral area. thi issue is only to spread hatred among paksitanis other wise its very simple thing.
 
(4 - Why Nawaz Sharif shifted too many factories from Karachi and Balochistan to Punjab in his govt.????)
it is decision of nawaz sharif, why dnt yu ask him, may be he feared that PPP or MQM can burnt his factories, why Altaf hussain shifted himself from Karachi, you didnt ask him...  
 
 
( - Why you people did not condemn the killing of Innocent Muhajir in 1988-1998...why????)
those were not innocent, as all those who killed were MQM activist not muhajir, if any Pakitani will be killed we will conden whether he is muhajir/balochi or what ever.
in 1988 PPP was in government.
 
(6- Why there are quota system in Pakistan???)
there should not be any quota system and who started it i have no idea. but to give some chance to rural areas thee should be some Quota for them. but apparetly quota system seems fair as well as in karachi more people of karachi will be hired and in sukkur more of sukkur people will be hired.
 
 
(7- Who is sincere party in Pakistan except MQM???)
apparently no party is sincere to Pakistan and parties like MQM hould be banned as they are preadig voilance and hatred
 
(8- Who surrendered in East Pakistan????)
that was Pakitan Army, what this uestion has to do with MQM, this question is asked by every paskitani.
 
(9 - What was the reasons of creation of Bangladesh????)
in Bangladesh there was sameparty like MQM, who first seed people with hatred and then some selfish politiions like Zulfiqar ali bhutto gave them opportunity to exploit. that is why i want MQM to be banned before they did the same what happend in bangladesh (Allah naa kary), the main issue was Prime miniter ship as PPP brke the one unit, what ever happened there after was done by Army and it is written in hamood ur rehamn comminssion report, no province has any role to that.
 
(10 - Why you all always think that non Pubjabies are Raw, Israeli and American Agents????
previously you people thought that Bangalis were the agent of Raw and Americans... what was the reality do you know????)
this is public opinion and it has nothing to do with punjab, i have said it before forunatly punjabi's never indulge them selves in any anti-Pakitan activity that is why not uch alleagation ever asserted on them.
we never called non-punjabi's RAW agent, we alwasy called all those parties like MQM,BLF,jiye-sindh, sirayki movement etc raw agent because there slogans mostly talked about breaking Pakistan and spread hatred.
 
 
(11 - What type of languages your province elders and dr. are using against MQM and Muhajirs...??? did you ever condemned them???)
this is the act of each individual not the act of province also refer to answer of Q2
 
Buddy everybody will die one day and when Munkar Nakir will come everybody will know what he did good and bad in his life of the world...you people are doing politics.....your aim is to down Karachi, Muhajir and MQM..........buddy I m telling you truth, b/c of your people bad comments we are going far away from each other...which is not good for anybody.....
 
you all hate Muhajir.......You all hate Karachi....
 
Muhajir and people of Karachi will support MQM and Altaf Hussain always.....InshahAllah
 
Muhajir, Karachities and MQM are not against any Punjabi, Pakhtoon, Sindhi, Balochi or Saraieki but they are against Punjabi, Pakhtoon, Sindhi, Balochi and Saraieki Feudal..
 
 
No one hate muhajirs and Karachi, this is the fatoor of your brain, Karachi, MQM and Muhajir are three different things, this thread was for the killing of Karachi people.
Karachi is not MQM tate ad MQM should stop thinkg this as well.
KArchi has a population of 1.25 crore and it is an aggregate of all other provincial people as well.
 
the questionaire yu put, i can put the same or better one againt MQM as well, but i am fed up of it.
i dont need your answers, because i know you wont understand any thing.
so be happy and try to think and see the things neutrally.
regards

 
 Reply:   You Didn't Acknowledge Anythin
Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (16/May/2007)
You all AntiKarachi, AnitMuhajir People have MQMFobia, Altaf HussainFobia and KarachiFobia in your mind and nothing else.
There is no one worthy to be worshipped but Allah, Muhammad is His (last) Messenger.
SalLalLahu Alehe WaAlehe WaSabehe WaSalLam
 
There is none worthy of worship but Allah alone, Who has no partner. His is the dominion and to Him belongs all praise, and He is Able to do all things. Glory is to Allah. Praise is to Allah. There is none worthy of worship but Allah. Allah is the Most Great. There is no might and no power except by Allah's leave, the Exalted, the Mighty. My Lord, forgive me.
 
 
Nomi, you did not acknowledge anything or mine..previously I asked lot of time why these happend with Karachities, did you ever give answer to those questions...?????
 
My question was.
 
1 - Why Punjab Govt closed the borders of Punjab for Muhajir??
 
2 - Why Punjab Feudal assassinated Liqat Ali Khan??
 
3- Why Capitcal is shifted from Karachi to Punjab???
 
4 - Why Nawaz Sharif shifted too many factories from Karachi and Balochistan to Punjab in his govt.????  
 
5 - Why you people did not condemn the killing of Innocent Muhajir in 1988-1998...why????
 
6 - Why there are quota system in Pakistan???
 
7 - Who is sincere party in Pakistan except MQM???
 
8 - Who surrendered in East Pakistan????
 
9 - What was the reasons of creation of Bangladesh????
 
10 - Why you all always think that non Pubjabies are Raw, Israeli and American Agents????
previously you people thought that Bangalis were the agent of Raw and Americans... what was the reality do you know????
 
11 - What type of languages your province elders and dr. are using against MQM and Muhajirs...??? did you ever condemned them???
 
Buddy everybody will die one day and when Munkar Nakir will come everybody will know what he did good and bad in his life of the world...you people are doing politics.....your aim is to down Karachi, Muhajir and MQM..........buddy I m telling you truth, b/c of your people bad comments we are going far away from each other...which is not good for anybody.....
 
you all hate Muhajir.......You all hate Karachi....
 
Muhajir and people of Karachi will support MQM and Altaf Hussain always.....InshahAllah
 
Muhajir, Karachities and MQM are not against any Punjabi, Pakhtoon, Sindhi, Balochi or Saraieki but they are against Punjabi, Pakhtoon, Sindhi, Balochi and Saraieki Feudal..
 
 
You give above answer, then i will give you my answer...
 
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 Reply:   If you cant see yourself then
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (16/May/2007)
not we , infact You all have MQMFobia, Altaf HussainFobia and KarachiFobia in your mind
Dear Kashif, Now you have started behaving like a blind follower, instead of commenting regarding the video and tell us what you have seen and instead of condemning the acts, you are favoring.
may Allah gives u guidance.
when ever you come up with any thing we acknowledge but you MQM(not KARACHI not MUHAJIR) activists cant see.
 
 Reply:   You all have MQMFobia, Altaf H
Replied by(kashfi80) Replied on (16/May/2007)
You all have MQMFobia, Altaf HussainFobia and KarachiFobia in your mind and nothing else.
There is no one worthy to be worshipped but Allah, Muhammad is His (last) Messenger.
SalLalLahu Alehe WaAlehe WaSabehe WaSalLam
 
There is none worthy of worship but Allah alone, Who has no partner. His is the dominion and to Him belongs all praise, and He is Able to do all things. Glory is to Allah. Praise is to Allah. There is none worthy of worship but Allah. Allah is the Most Great. There is no might and no power except by Allah's leave, the Exalted, the Mighty. My Lord, forgive me.
 
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You all have MQMFobia, Altaf HussainFobia and KarachiFobia in your mind and nothing else.
 
Regards,
Kashif

 
 Reply:   Why Ter. Pervaiz and Ter. Alta
Replied by(Haque) Replied on (16/May/2007)
Munafiq Qomi Mafia (MQM) and its patrons i.e. Pervaiz Makrooh & Badrooh (M&B) Tony Blair (TB), Bush, Israeli Zionists and Indian Raw are directly responsible for the killing and injuring man
With Allah's Name, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate

Assalamo Alaikum


Munafiq Qomi Mafia (MQM) and its patrons i.e. Pervaiz Makrooh & Badrooh (M&B) Tony Blair (TB), Bush, Israeli Zionists and Indian Raw are directly responsible for the killing and injuring many innocent human beings. Of course Pakistan's number 1 terrorist and Badboodar Jaahil (BJ) Terrorist (Ter.) Altaf is given full protection by Global Terrorist Tony Blair (TB) and Bush. While TB under direct Zionist control has given asylum as well as UK citizenship to BJ Ter. Altaf. On the other hand Bush under Zionist command and control has provided like previous USA Presidents USA visas to MQM terrorists and supporters.

Why Ter. Pervaiz (M& B) and Ter. Altaf (BJ) are directly responsible for killing over 35 inncoent human beings and seriously injuring hundreds? The reasons are as follows:

  1. Every citizen and all lawful foreigners have full right to travel to any part of Pakistan
  2. If Chief Justice of Pakistan has no right to visit any part of Pakistan and give a talk to the Bar Associations who else has these rights?
  3. To suggest that Chief Justice should not come to Karachi and forcefully sending him back and not allowing him to travel on roads is the gravest ever contempt of court and entire Sind Government and Pervvaiz (M & B) are guilty of this contempt. Even to suggest and "advise" Chief Justice amounts to contempt
  4. Providing full security and free passages is full responsibility of the Government. If it can not discharge its duties then it must go and vanish. When Raja Dahir was not able to provide the necessary security to Muslim women pilgrims, Muhammad Bin Qasim taught him a perfect lesson
  5. MQM terrorists who are hired as police men and rangers abused their Government powers and uniform just like Pervaiz (M & B) to commit terrorism against peaceful citizens of Pakistan. To say all are equally responsible e.g. by BBC is utter dishonesty and goes very well with the great tradition of lying, deception and terrorism of British Government and media which are absolutely puppets to the Zionists. BBC plyaed key role in shifting the blame of 9/11 from the real terrorists i.e. Zionists to Muslims. It had ex-Israeli Prime Minister Yahuda Barak (And a friend of Benazir!) sitting in the Lond studio to blast the Muslims within seconds of contorlled demolition of Wrold Trade Center. BBC even dug out the Muslim youth celebration of football victory video and ran as alleged Muslims celebration of WTC demolition while the fact is that many innocent Muslims are killed in this building while not a single Jew had been killed despite haivng big offices in the building
  6. MQM dug the roads, closed the gates of High Court and blocked the roads with containers.
  7. MQM fired upon PPP, PMP and Jamat-e-Islami's processions from the bridges and Water Sabeels killing many innocent human beings. MQM had imported thouands of its brain washed and trained terrorists from Interior Sind. They were given specific tasks and places along with automatic rifles and other weapons.
  8. It is interesting that a fake and paid rally was carried out by Pervaiz (M & B) and his mentally retarded Chaudharies but none of the opposition party attacked these rallies. It  should be noted that Islamabad has MMA and PPP members of national assemblies and they could have  easily taken out the counter rallies and attacked Pervaiz (M & B) fake rally.
  9. There was no law and order problem in Chief Justice's 25 hours travel on road while Chief Justice was not allowed to leave airport and yet MQM under full patronage and encouragement of Pervaiz (M & B) gave Karachi a blood bath. This makes both Ter. Pervaiz (M & B ) and Ter. Altaf (BJ) number 1 enemy of Pakistan and its people.
  10. PTV and Radio Pakistan were exclusively abused for propaganda of Pervaiz (M & B) and MQM. MQM had earlier attacked several TV stations and forced them to close down on the pretext of Journalist dishonesty but what was going on May 12, who was abusing right and left Pakistan's media resources. This will have to be accounted someday to the people.
Above are 10 Solid reasons that both Ter. Pervaiz (M & B) and Ter. Altaf (BJ) are responsible along with the police and rangers men in plain clothes (Whose pictures are well recorded and available for court trials). Entire MQM leadership including Farooq Sattar and Governor Ishrat Ul Ibad etc are also equally responsible.

It is therefore requested from the honorable Supreme Court to take son its own action against all these culprits. It is also requested to all core commanders to arrest Ter. Pervaiz (M&B) and carry his court martial. If they fail to do so, public will do it Insha Allah. Both Federal and Sind and Punjab Governments must be dissolved with arrest of Ter. Pervaiz and Chief Ministers and Governors of these provinces and all leaders of MQM These all should be bought to justice on above charges as well as massive abuse of Government machinery and personnel both in referendum and fake Islamabad rally --
Anwar Ul Haque
 
 Reply:   MQM and its chief Patron Perva
Replied by(Haque) Replied on (16/May/2007)
First they got rid of Chief Justice's close associate Registrar Supreme Court Mr. Raza out of the way. They killed him point blank in G 10 sector of Islamabad very early in the morning
With Allah's Name, the Most Merciful, the Most COmpassionate
 
16th May, 2007
 
Munafiq Qomi Mafia (MQM)
MQM and its chief Patron Pervaiz Makrooh & Badrooh (M&B) have done it again. 
 
First they got rid of Chief Justice's close associate Registrar Supreme Court Mr. Raza out of the way. They killed him point blank in G 10 sector of Islamabad very early in the morning. In order to influence autopsy findings and make sure nothing goes against State terrorists, many high officers were present in PIMS along with Aftab Shair Pao. Prevaiz (M&B) sent a message of terror to all the judges etc. 
Then came an attack on Marhaba Hotel killing over 25 innocent people. This was an Attetnion Deviation Tactic so that focus could be changed from Munafiq Qomi Mafia to something else. Several private channels had forgotten Blood, Blood Karachi 
In Karachi MQM had imported thousands of its terrorists from interior SInd over 3 days period and planted them with rifles on the bridges and on the Sabeels to shoot everyone.who is trying to support independent judiciary and law. These lawless people see their death in case Justice is established. 
Dr. Sattar Farooq is lying and lying and PTV and radio Pakistan is spreading these lies all the time. People have given up PTV as it has become a lie box and boot licker of military dictator. 
We demand the following: 
1)  Arrest of military dictator Pervaiz (M&B) and he should be tired on each and every murder case beginning from the assassination of Lawyer Iqbal Ra'd and them all murders in WANA, Afghansitan, Dargi, Bajor and Karachi.
2) Arrest of all top aids of Pervaiz (M&B) including his Principal secretary Tariq Aziz on charges of collaboration with Pervaiz (M&B) in all his illegal acts.
3) Court martial of Pervaiz (M&B) over violation of numeorus military rules and regulation and for shameful violations of the constitution.
4) Arrest of Shaukat Aziz over corruption and borrowing enormous amount of money for which he had no right and getting elected through massive rigging
5) Prosecution of Shaukat Aziz over gross embezzlement in Prime Minister Hepatitis Program and AIDS.
6) Prosectuion of Shaukat Aziz in Pakistan Steel Mill frauds
7) Resoration of all those supreme and high court judges who did not take oath of loyalty to Pervaiz. Their lost period may be made up by granting them extra time
8) Arrest of all leaders of MQM and their active workers over charges of massive killing, terrorizing general public,
10) Exemplary punishment to all police  men and rangers who did nothing to stop MQM killing innocent people and allowed terrorists to go unabated killings to the extent the Driver of Edhi Trust and tow injured patients were killed after stopping their vehicle. All police officers and rangers must be suspended and must be punished for obeying illegal commands 
11) Request British Government to hand over Altaf Hussian;t he Badboodar Jaahil and Pakistan's number 1 terrorist. Altaf Hussian must be hanged in public in front of Mazar-e-Qadia-e-Azma after due uninterrupted prosecution fro killing thousands of people and establsihing torture cells. 
12)  All those people who gave undue protection to Pervaiz (M&B) to carry out his illegal and anti state activities.
 
Anwar Ul Haque

 
 Reply:   Now what you will going to say
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (16/May/2007)

From the first day you people were propagating the pics of other parties activist, who were also doing the wrong things.
but we condemn them and we condemn MQM as well, but why your eye are so closed that you cant see the truth yourself.
except Government and MQM every one said that Karachi burnt due to MQM.
from Pakistan to USA every news paper, web site and news channel condemn the acts of MQM.
why you people are not listening to them.
Is American and British media is also with PUNJAB or anti-Muhajir(MQM) (in your words.)
please brothers open your eyes.
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